Episode 191: Donna Mullen

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Hello, and welcome to the Catch
My Killer Podcast. Thank you for listening.

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My name is Mark. For nearly
eight years, I've written a weekly

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newspaper column about true crimes and missing
people for the Claremontson Newspaper in Ohio.

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With a column and podcast, it
has always been my objective to bring attention

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to those cases that have not received
much media attention, if any. This

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week's story involves the disappearance of Donna
Geneve Mullen, who was thirty seven years

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old when she disappeared. Donald was
also the mother of three daughters. At

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the time of Donna's disappearance, she
was a citizen of the Jacksonville Beach community.

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She worked at the Speech Bar and
had developed many friendships. On July

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nineteenth, nineteen eighty six, Donna
Mullin was reported missing. She had last

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been seen by a neighbor near her
home on North Second Street in Jacksonville Beach.

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According to Donna's daughter, Candy Sharp, she had left her home with

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a gun. Over thirty seven years
have passed and no one has ever seen

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Donna alive again. Donna Mullin was
the mother of three daughters. She was

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born in Cincinnati, Ohio, on
November twenty ninth, nineteen forty eight,

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and grew up in the Wilmington,
Ohio area. Donna often traveled between Jacksonville,

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Florida, and Cincinnati to visit family. She loved her daughters, but

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she also had her inner demons.
She had struggled with an addiction to alcohol.

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Her daughter, Candy, said that
her mother was a different person when

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she was intoxicated. When sober,
Dona would bring Candy's two sisters to visit

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her in Ohio. Candy didn't live
with her mother, but lived in Ohio

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with her adopted family, who had
taken her in and raised her as their

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own daughter. Although Candy wasn't raised
by her mother, the two were close.

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Donna made sure that she kept in
touch with her daughter, Candy.

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Candy said that her mother disappeared on
July nineteenth, nineteen eighty six, when

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her mother, Donna Mullen, was
reported missing. She had last been seen

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by a neighbor near her home on
North Second Street in Jacksonville Beach. According

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to Candy, her mother was last
seen walking out of her home with a

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gun. According to Candy, Donna
and her boyfriend at the time spent a

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weekend in Ohio, before traveling to
Michigan by a new Harley Davidson motorcycle.

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They then traveled to Russellville, Kentucky, to visit Candy's sister April, before

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returning home to Jacksonville. Donna would
soon disappear after her return trip back to

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Jacksonville, Candy and her sister April
have continuously sought justice for their mother.

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Unfortunately, their sister, Michelle,
has since passed away without ever knowing what

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happened to their beloved mother. During
a news interview, the sisters had stated

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that they were having a difficult time
living without their mother. Just not knowing

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what happened to their mother has been
very difficult for the sisters. Candy has

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said that she thinks about her mother
constantly. At the time of Donna's disappearance

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from Jacksonville, she was thirty seven
years old, five foot one. She

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had brown hair and blue eyes.
The mother three had affectionately been known as

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Duck to the way she walked.
Donna had a few distinctive tattoos, including

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a black panther on her left shoulder
and two redhearts with a black k on

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her right wrist. She also had
pierced ears and a scar from a hysterectomy

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on her abdomen. She's been missing
for nearly forty years. What happened to

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this missing mother? The family believes
that her mom's boyfriend at the time knows

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exactly what happened to their mother.
His name is mentioned, but I have

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blocked out his name because he has
not been charged with any crime involving Donna's

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disappearance. For this story, I
spoke to Donna's daughter Candy about her mother's

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disappearance, and now on with the
story of Donna Mullen, as told by

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her daughter, Candy Sharp. She
was actually born in Cincinnati, but she

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grew up in a Wilmanton area.
So as she grew up, she had

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a sister, a biological balk sister
named marriage Joe, and she was her

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bartender, go godmpter. She had
always been back and forth from here to

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Jacksonville, from since Nanny to Jacksonville. My oldest sister, Michelle Dahn Michelle

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Crampton, is decease. She died. I try not to think about it,

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so I can't remember the date.
She died on July thirteenth. She

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pretty much drank herself to death a
lot of it had to do with my

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mother's disappearance, and she did the
runaway and to drug thoroughly, and that

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led to her doing a lot of
drinking while she died at forty eighty nine

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of Cirricius of the liver, that
being sedge. She was married where she

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was pregnant with my oldest sister,
Michelle as we call her. We don't

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call her Dawn Michelle. She married
a man named James Crampton who fathered Michelle

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as well, even though it wasn't
a biological father. He took care of

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but they got married and then they
had another daughter, or their first daughter

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together, which is April, which
is my middle sister. Then she cheated

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on him and got pregnant with me. Though I was the giveaway baby.

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She put me up for adoption to
a family that she knew. They were

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family, distant family already though my
mom and dad's names were Lois and George

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Begley. Okay, so that's how
the three kids came about. She would

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bring my two sisters to come and
see me when I was really little.

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She would cook me up for the
weekend. She would have to promise my

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parents that she wasn't blinking or doing
any kind of drug or anything while she

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had all of the skirl together.
So I found out at a very young

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age if these two girls that were
coming to see me were acting my sisters.

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And the lady I was calling aunt
Donna was my biological mother. She

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was very thick when I was born
and she couldn't forgive me, so she

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gave me to the family where she
would always be able to come and jast

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me that. They ended up being
very close, and like I said,

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they world related somehow anyway to like
this and cousins or something like that of

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my mother's were so in her adult
years. I knew her too. She

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in nineteen eighty six when she did
the tiered I was only sixteen years old

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when I was living in Amelia,
Ohio. Form she had came up Kip

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Goze with her then and thebe six. I'm not sure Kamimo was still married

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but was still good, but she
was going by his last name, So

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she was going by Donna Suckers at
the time, and her boyfriend was who

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was in the Navy station on Jacksonville. I'm just saying that's how they met.

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So she came up for the weekend. So when she came up missing

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what have been July nineteenth of nineteen
eighty six, she supposedly left her apartment

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in Jacksonville with a gun and and
she was going to go kill someone.

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This is from a friend, but
ended up reporting for missing. At this

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time, my older sister, Michelle, I just spent two years and the

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when correctional fability and it's raally North
Carolina for being accessory to a burglary.

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And as my mother had it appeared
for only weeks at this time. Michelle

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and her boyfriend moved right into my
mom's apartment. Of course was there and

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her key were there. So when
they moved out, I get they took

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what they wanted and a little about
later I get the landlord finally decided that

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he's been a clear out the apartment, called my grandmother and my aunt to

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come and clean out for a belonging. Still to this day, no one

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has ever been questioned in this case. Does that just not found? Right?

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Okay? And just to clarify,
when your mother disappeared, she was

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living in Florida at the time,
is that correct? Injectionville? Yeah,

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And she said that your oldest sister
and her boyfriend had both moved into your

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mom's apartment after she disappeared. Yeah. Yes, because she had just gotten

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out of prison and she pretty much
didn't have nowhere to go. She was

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very young at the time she see
I was sixteen, she was twenty and

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had already spent two years in prison, so she didn't have anywhere to go.

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Though she had this boyfriend. I'm
assuming that she was maybe seeing him

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before she went to prison. I'm
not sure, but yes, it was

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after she disappeared as they moved in. When you mentioned that part of the

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story, I had thought that that
seemed kind of odd. I mean,

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your mom disappeared and then your sister
and her boyfriend just taken upon themselves to

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just move in your mom had disappeared. Who authorized them to just move in?

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Did your mom allow this before she
disappeared? Or did another relative or

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someone else just say, hey,
it's okay for you to move in,

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although the woman who lives here is
gone missing, it's okay for you to

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live here. Who okayed this?
I don't believe anyone, but this is

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nineteen eighty six. Remember, laws
weren't dads they are today, So I

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don't believe the landlord probably didn't question
her being her daughter and being an apartment.

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Like I said, the rent was
paid up for the month or whatever.

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And I'm not sure exactly how long
Michelle stayed there. I'm just going

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to call her a biker. And
this is truly what happened. Michelle would

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call up the police department down there
and literally cush these men and women out,

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and my aunt would do pretty much
the same thing. My aunt married

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Joe, and so these people literally
got tired of listening to this crack that

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my sister was supposedly spooing at them, sending them letters and making phone calls

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and just being belligerent. And the
captain even told me this that it got

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pushed back to the back of the
desk, the kate, and it just

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got pushed back. Finally that was
someone new on the kit who might look

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over it in question of you being
then in turn led to I believe her

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name was Kingsberry, and she really
was doing some digging and trying to find

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things out, and then she retired, And I mean, it just got

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pushed back, and no one was
ever questioned about her disappearance, not the

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people that worked for her. Storked
at the writ and the employees there that

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she worked with every day. No
one was questioned about anything, not her

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boyfriend. So now it's been thirty
plus years, we still know nothing.

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But we did go to Okay,
So when she disappeared, we'll go back

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to this. When I was sixteen, she came up here with her boyfriend

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in the Lincoln. I believe she
chose her car up here and they were

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going to Michigan to pick up a
Harley Davidson to drive it back to Florida.

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They came up and they stayed the
weekend with me at my parent apartment

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in a Million where we live.
But I'm only sixteen, and during that

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visult, she made plan with me
that in August, you know, I

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was going to come down there and
stay for a couple of months see if

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I liked it. It was very
tough being adopted, knowing your biological mother

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and not being able to be with
her and struggling between two families. So

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I was going to go down there
with her for a few months and see

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if I liked it, and maybe
transfer school if I did. On that

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kind of thing. So they go
to Michigan, Okay, they stopped to

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see me. On the way up, they go to Michigan, they drive

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a Harley back the Harley they stopped
at my sister. My sister, April

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has always lived in southern Kentucky,
down in the Bowling Green area, so

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they talked to my chists or April
on the way. On the way back

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through to Jacksonville, something came up
about there being some's cocaine in the bike.

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I don't know how much. I
don't know if it's true. April

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had three little kids at the time, and she asked my mother and to

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leave. Obviously they had some sort
of drawing down them, and April didn't

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wanted around her kid, so she
leaves. They go back back fon Bill

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and it's just literally not even two
or three weeks later, on July nineteenth,

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excuse reported by her friend Jack can
golle PB and a file five inches

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thick. Even there, they've never
questioned anyone and don't have any of that

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kind of information to the fort.
It was a lot of letters from Mike

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sister Michelle to the Fleet department begging
them to do this and do that.

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Are you doing anything? But like
I said, since she both flligerent and

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rude, and cuffing at these people. It just got pushed the guide then,

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So that's where we are today.
Although ay for all and I we

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went to Jacksonville and we did a
news interview and we had to wear a

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mask. So we did that between
me and you and a guardrail when we

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were at that visit a couple of
years ago in jackson though, I think

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we went there two years in a
row and then we haven't been back in

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a couple of years. But we
found out that Donna had in turn her

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family doctor to borrow ten thousand dollars, which we never knew about before.

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But I think it all thinks in
two stories of the bike then full of

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cocaine, but she's leaving her house
with her gun. She's asking her doctors

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for ten thousand dollars. Who's now
deceased, by the way, and was

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never questioned. It seems to me
that something happened to the coke. Either

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somebody ripped them off, or they
some kind of deal went bad. Maybe

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she was leaving with the gun trying
to get money because they ripped them all.

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I'm not sure what exactly happened that
made me have different thoughts, you

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know, find it out that she
had literally asked her doctor Tom Barrow two

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thousand tall her. I mean,
who does that? But again, this

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was nineteen eighty six. She was
a bartender. She was a very cute

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older lady. Well she wasn't older
then, but yeah, it just leads

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me to believe that that bike was
packed full coke. Something happened, Dad,

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she went out to try to get
her money back or threaten somebody,

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because she wasn't a violent person that
I ever knew of. I mean,

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yes, she owned a gun,
but Gosha a bartender, Harley Ryder or

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she lives the Russian gruff. So
two weeks after this, we found out

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that two weeks before she came up
missing, broke up with her. Right

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now, he lives in North Carolina, and to this day, even though

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the Jacksonville PD, no, they
still have not reached out to question him

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about anything. Now, have you
ever contacted this guy and personally had a

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discussion with him about the whereabouts of
your mother? We have not. He

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would not return any kind of phone
calls when we did have an address.

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His family is from Michigan, so
then I'm assuming that there's a possibility that

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he may know exactly what happened to
your mother all those years ago? Is

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that an accurate statement? Oh?
Absolutely, bike full of coke with you

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in the first play. So where's
the bike at today? Whatever happened to

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it? Do you know? I
have no clue? They wrote it back

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to Jack then though far a guy
knew it was here the matter cycle.

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He should have been the first,
you know, it's the only one questions

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should have been him, And even
they said they by one point they could

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have got the Navy involved, but
they still haven't. Still two years later

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and there's a new guy on the
case. I believe his name is Justin

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Thumpin. Still nothing. And I
understand there's a lot of cases down there,

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Jeff, like my mom's. I
understand that. But you know,

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it's been thirty thirty some years after
Donna's tripp to purchase a Harley Davidson motorcycle,

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she would disappear. I had asked
Candy about life without her mother,

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as she was a teenager when her
mother disappeared. We will take a short

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break in return with Candy's thoughts about
her mother's disappearance. Let me go back

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to when your mother and her boyfriend
visited you in Amelia, Ohio when you

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were a teenager. How long did
she stay with you? And do you

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remember anything that stuck out in the
back of your mind from that visit?

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Was there anything unusual about your mom's
behavior or just anything that struck you as

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odd about her visit? Nothing worth
out of the ordinary for the visit,

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she was just loving, happy to
see me, happy to see us.

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We were all her family, even
my adopted parents. We all loved her.

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So we had a nice visit.
They only stayed I think one night.

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I think they left the next day. And I'm guessing that after she

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left you, being a sixteen year
old teenager living in Ohio, you were

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probably excited thinking, Wow, I
may be going from living in Amelia,

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Ohio to Jacksonville, Florida in a
few months. Yeah, exactly, exactly,

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Yeah, Yeah, I hate jack
Thenville. Now that I'm an adult

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and I know what's there and I've
been there a couple of times, now,

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I don't like it. But still, yeah, sixteen years old,

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and you gotta understand too, there's
a little rebellion going on because I've always

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known that these people that adopted me
are not my real parent. You know

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what, I'm saying I had siblings. Luckily, I have an older sister

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and then two brothers and then me. I wasn't like them, I didn't

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look like them. My grandmother treated
me like I was garbage because I didn't

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belong to my dad biologically a real
mom. For my adopted mom had two

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miscarriages as well as the three children, so she was happy to have me.

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I was born because Donna tried to
abhord me twice. I was born

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with the beer food allergy, and
I was purple. Though just though happen.

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The parents that took me, George
and Loweck. He worked at Ford

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Mighter Company at the time in Sharonville, and that was a great job with

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great insurance, and they were able
to get me right in the doctors who

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looked me up with braces for my
legs and all that kind of stuff.

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Though she really put me with a
good family. But still there was rebellion.

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Sixteen years. I'd come on,
fifteen fourteen, You're like, I

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don't have to listen to you.
You're not my real mom, or you're

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not my real band, or you
know what I mean. Mean things that

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I never ever should have done,
and I totally regret now, But I

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was a kid. You just don't
know until you're older and look back at

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how you treat it your parents,
you know, But me and my parents

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were very close to My dad ended
that all was ninth heart attack when I

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was eighteen years old. Just two
years after she disappears, I lost the

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only father I had ever known,
and I eventually did. She always told

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me who my real father was,
and I did track him down, and

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I did find my biological father and
I knew him for ten years and him

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and my adopted mother died in the
same year. Yes, then I have

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four parents and then they're all dead. Still, what brought your mom to

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Jacksonville? Why did she move there? I don't really know. She would

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hitchhike from here to Jacklynville and back
and she would just I don't know.

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She just loved it down there once
she was there, want and kind of

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like April and I once we've been
there once. Now we go on a

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sister's trip every year, but we
don't go to doc and will we go

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to the other coast, which is
where we just were. I really don't

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know what a doc had we're now, What do you know about this friend,

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the one who had last seen your
mother. When did this person realize

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that something bad may have happened to
your mother? I guess it was a

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friend that reported her missing. Maybe
she didn't show up her work or something.

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But I'm not understanding how someone fell
her leaving with a gun. That's

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the part that I don't get,
because nineteen eighty sick people didn't have cameras

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on their houses and stuff like we
do now. I mean, she wasn't

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the same person that saw her.
Maybe a with her neighbor. I mean,

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she lived in this little house,
you know, that was apartment.

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Maybe it was the neighbor that told
the friend I saw her walking out the

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door with a gun in her hand
or something to that effect. Supposedly was

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she alone when she left, Yes, And like I said, she didn't

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take her life, and she didn't
have her keys. She literally left her

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electrical on, lights on, the
TV was on out the door, saying

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I'm going to go kill someone,
kill that bastard or something is what she

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said. But I don't know that
for sure. Now see, we've never

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even talked to the friend that filed
the police report. She's never been questioned

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about anything. Is this person still
alive as far as I know yet,

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I definitely think that this person would
be someone good to speak to about whatever

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happened to your mother. I mean, if she can remember anything nearly forty

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years ago. Yeah, and neither
you nor your sister have ever spoken to

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this friend, is that correct?
No. When my aunt and my grandma

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Beer went down and cleaned out her
house, they brought a back a few

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little things. So one of the
things that I got was this little addressed

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book, and I literally wrote letters
to everyone in this addressed book. I

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didn't get not one letter back,
but I didn't get not one response either,

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and some of them were business there, which we couldn't even get dental

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records from the dentist office, or
maybe fifteen or twenty. Okay, But

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when I was younger, she told
me that if I really wanted to leave,

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that we could go away to the
Pilotines and no one would ever find

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that. And so she and Jacklynville, there's a navy base right there,

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and she was into meeting the navy
men, and she had my sister April,

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I am so bad with me,
and we were just talking about those

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slow we were going there because she
had oh, maybe his name was Ray

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and he was a little pilotinal guy. And see, I always wondered if

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she just didn't up and off and
go to the Philippines and there's living her

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in best life. But we have
no way to or to find out because

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something about they don't go bike her
security numbers or something. There would be

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no real weight to identify her if
she did new to the Philippine, but

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her subsecurity number had not been you
its nineteen eighty six. Either, we

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could do from check to the security
department. I don't know, I got

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be There's a lot of twists and
turned. My sister really believed that this

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guy named who I owned an apartment
building, had killed her and buried her

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under the building in the concrete.
There's people that told my fifth are all

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kinds of things. I don't know
if it was because she were an alcoholic

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and they were taking advantage of her. Some people told her she was in

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the ocean. There's just been all
kind of little stories, but nothing compares

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to the fact that that bike was
full of cocaine. And obviously that is

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what has contributed to her disappearance.
I mean, because even though she was

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the biker type and the barmaid type. She wasn't a violent person in any

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way. I mean, she might
have threatened to beat your ass, but

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she never wouldn't have. Today,
Candy is convinced that her mother's criminal activity

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may have led to her disappearance.
She also thinks that her boyfriend at the

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time may know more about what happened
to her mother than what he has ever

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said publicly. We will take a
final break in return with Candy's final thoughts

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on her mother's disappearance. So,
based on everything that you have told me,

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it does sound like she was possibly
involved in some type of criminal activity,

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right right, But whether or not
that she knew that the bike was

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full of coke or whether they just
had a little bit of coke that I

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don't know. So I can't say
that she was actually involved in the criminal

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activity. Well I'm not going to
say that she wasn't. I don't know.

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I wasn't around her. And again, going back to the boyfriend,

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it sounds like he probably knows what
happened to your mother all those years ago,

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right, probably everything that needs to
be known, if he will admit

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to anything. If it's the thing, it's been so many years now he's

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just thinking he's got away with murder. Where is he? Where is she?

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I just heard on the news like
day before yesterday they just pulled like

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sixties b hicles out of lakes and
ponds and stuff in Florida. Oh thinking,

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oh my god, could she'd be
in one of them? And then

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they just directed about me who killed
over a hundred women several months ago.

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He killed women just literally from all
over everywhere, but he didn't kill any

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in Florida. And then there's this
George Thorpe. They did follow up a

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little bit of investigation on him,
he ended up dying, but nothing ever

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came of it. That we are
just stuff with no answers nowhere, And

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it would be just be nice if
the Jacklinville pete would get off their button,

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do something, just question somebody before
literally everyone is dead because somebody still

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knows something. And you're using social
media to bring attention to this case,

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correct, Yeah, we share with
things on Facebook. Do you have a

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page dedicated to your mom's story?
No, no, we don't. We

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just share it on our pages.
And what law enforcement agency is handling your

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mother's case? Jacklinville Beach, Jacksonville
Beach breet the cart, And when's the

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last time that you've spoken to anyone
from their apartment? Two years ago.

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We've been on vacation two times.
Technically, I guess that's been on nest

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three years. And I'm assuming that
there's been no updates. Yep, nothing,

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And that's how I know they They
still haven't questioned the people that we

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brought up that they should question,
like her boyfriend, right, have you

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ever been questioned if the apartment owner
dead is the owner of the rich dead?

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I mean, I know some of
them are dead. Her doctor who

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dentists, her best friend. Like
I told you earlier, I think that

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the bike with bulletcoke, something happened. She went to try to write a

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wrong and got wronged instead. Truly, that's what I think, and I've

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only thought that then I found out
that she I knew that she had asked

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April's dad for money. That was
her first husband and they stayed close for

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all these years, you know,
having the two kids. So that was

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red flag number one. Not that
they was out of the ordinary for her

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to call anyone and asked to borrow
money. At certain times. She was

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a bar tenure, like I said, she wasn't rich. And this was

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back in the eighties too, you
know people did that. She hitch back

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and forth when she didn't have a
car, and then she met this guy

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who shot her the silver Link and
continental when she came and picked us all

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up one weekend and me and my
two sisters in her and we went out

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to my grandparents' house who lived in
Wilmington, and we went to my uncle's

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banks fall games and we just had
so much fun. We camped down on

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lingram floor. And when I had
a step grandma too, that was always

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very nice with That's how I have
April Michelle, and I have uncles that

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are all of our ages. My
grandpa after he divorced his first wife and

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his second wife got with a younger
woman and had she had one kid,

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and then he had two more kids
who were fifty six, fifty four and

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fifty two years old. Who says
they made it was me and my two

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six sisters. But she just wasn't
a violent person. And for her to

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go off leaving with the gun in
the first place, that's another red flag.

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You know. The ten thousand dollars
that she asked her doctor for boom,

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that's a huge red flag. Who
even in nineteen eighty six, who's

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going to ask her doctor for ten
thousand dollars? I mean, this wasn't

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hey, can I borrow one hundred
bucks for gah? This is ten grand

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And as far as I know,
he didn't loan it to him, but

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we know that you might have.
She came up missing. I don't know

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she they could want the doctor.
My honest ceiling is that, yeah,

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it was a bike was full of
coo. I don't know what happened.

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But because up until two years ago
when I found that out, or three

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years ago, I really felt in
my mark that it could really be that

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she just went to the Philippine.
But maybe that was just told. Now

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hope too that she's alive and happy
somewhere because strangers that may theme. I

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have my very best trend. Her
mother actually disappeared too for twenty two years,

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but then they found her. She's
alive and well and living in Texas.

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And Joe I was twenty two years
she didn't have her mom. So

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your mother has been missing for nearly
forty years, and you've been spending a

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lot of your time, as well
as your sister, trying to figure out

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what happened to your mother? What
is driving you both to pursue this.

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Wouldn't it just be easier to just
say she's gone, We'll let her rest

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in peace and just kind of move
on. I'm sure that would be the

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easiest thing to do. What is
keeping you from doing that? I don't

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feel elect and so we can put
her to rest that she's resting in peace.

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She was murdered. Having the wreck
in peace when you're murdered, you

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know what I'm saying, Just that
not knowing that's it's horrible. It's really

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an undescribable feeling that you get.
You have to know. I don't want

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to go to my grave not knowing
what happened to it. And just recently

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I saw your mom's story on the
back of a playing card. Now I

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know that's something that seems to be
a good tool for law enforcement. There

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are unsolved homicides and missing people cases
that are placed on these playing cards and

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then they are distributed throughout prisons.
So tell me about that. How did

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your mom's story end up on the
back of a playing card? So a

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Project Cold Keith, you know what
that is. Yes, I'm familiar with

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that agency. So we went to
Jacksonville when we met with Ryan and Frieda

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who are Ryan with the founder,
and a similar story happened to his dad.

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He's murdered and that's how he found
it. Project case. So they

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do spotlight on her anniversary every year
and they constantly run. She'll just pop

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up every once in a while.
They're always project spotlighting new cases on their

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page. So I'm not sure how
the playing cards came about, but we

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were just notified last year that they
did playing cards with cold cases on them,

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and they distribute them to praise ends
and different things like that, and

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so this year they finally put her
in and I haven't received my back yet.

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I think they distribute them to all
these places where they could get a

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kick just from other people, you
know, like you said, in Provence

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and THERFP centers, wherever they can
distribute them. Yeah, I actually think

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that those cards is that's a pretty
good idea. I have heard about these

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cards for a while and from what
I understand, law enforcement has actually gotten

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tips from those playing cards. Right. Yeah, they run the story even

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acton though all the time. You
know, occasionally I'll get a call from

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my uncle fan nights. They I
just saw the new cliff or the missing

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person you know story. They don't
do it very often, but maybe once

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or twice a year. I think
she flumped up and that's in Jacklinville.

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I'm up here and she's in Kentucky. Though anything we share it or don't

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really go to Jacklonville. We don't
have friends there who can share the story,

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you know what I'm saying. I
mean, even though people do share

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it, it doesn't get shared enough. If not. Her face isn't plastered

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all over Jacklonville like it should be. And I do need to call that.

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They can't give down there and find
out what it's going on because it

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has been three years and like I
said, my sisters, she just really

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like to talk about oh that much. The most amazing thing to me is

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they never question that one damn person. That is what gets me all these

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years. So they still not question
anyone. I just don't understand. I

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know they're busy. There's lots of
missing people from jack Then though. I

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understand this for thirty six years old
and probably never going to be solved,

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but there's still people out here who
love her and miss Or. I want

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to know what happened to her okay, and I have one final question for

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you. For anyone out there that's
listening to this podcast episode that can hear

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the sound of your voice, if
they know anything about what happened to your

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mother all those years ago, what
would you say to that person or person's

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please report what you know. I
mean, any little pip or little thing

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could be it that could break the
case open. The smallest little siding or

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anything of anyone you know could break
the case wide open, and then we

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wouldn't be sitting here wondering. We
would like to bury her remains and put

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her direst in our eyes anyway,
So that's what I would say, Please

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anything, And that concludes the story
of Donna Mullen. On July nineteenth,

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nineteen eighty six, she vanished from
Jacksonville, Florida, after last being seen

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with a gun, stating that she
was going to shoot someone. Donna's two

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surviving daughters have been on a quest
to find out what exactly happened to their

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mother. The only thing that they
know is that she just vanished into thin

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air, as if she had never
even existed. No one just disappears without

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someone else knowing what happened to that
person, can you help Candy and her

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sister April get answers for their mother
who is missing and presumed dead. And

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if you have a valuable tip,
you can contact the Jacksonville Beach Police Apartment

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at nine zero four two seven zero
one, six six one, or if

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you wish to remain anonymous, you
can report your tip to First Coast Crime

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Stoppers at eight six six eight four
five tips and I will be sure to

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provide this information and in the case
story notes. And if you are a

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parent, law enforcement official, friend, or relativity injustice for an unsolved thomicide

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case, please visit my website and
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for listening.