Episode 190: William Balfour Sr. (Part 2 of 2)

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Hello, and welcome to the Catch
My Killer Podcast. Thank you for listening.

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My name is Mark. For nearly
eight years, I've written a weekly

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newspaper column about true crimes and missing
people to the Claremont Sun newspaper in Ohio.

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With the column and podcast, it
has been my objective to bring attention

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to those cases that have not received
much media attention, if any at all.

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This week's story involves the homicide of
an elderly Munsee, Indiana grandfather named

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William Balfour Senior, who was murdered
on July two, twenty nineteen. He

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was seven years old when he was
beaten at death and then left on the

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side of the road. Who killed
this elderly grandfather and why. For nearly

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four years, I've interviewed many people
who were seeking justice for family and friends

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that have been murdered. It's been
my experience that criminal activity and lifestyle choices

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often lead to someone either disappearing or
being murdered. But then you have cases

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where people are murdered for no apparent
reason. An elderly grandfather named William Balfour's

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Senior would be one of those individuals. For this week's episode, I interviewed

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Consuela Balfour. William Balfour Senior was
a retired grandfather. The once he resident

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enjoyed spending time with his children and
grandchildren. According to Lushaia and Consuela,

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William was definitely the family patriot.
William's youngest daughter spoke to him daily,

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cooked meals for him, and did
everything she could to make his life comfortable.

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She was definitely a daddy's girl who
has nothing left of her father but

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fond memories of him. Both sisters
took great pride and taking care of their

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father. They made sure the elderly
handicapped man never over exerted himself. He

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had grandsons and other family members to
take care of any physical tasks that needed

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to be done. His children just
wanted to make sure that William enjoyed his

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retirement, spent time with his family
and friends, and relaxed. Before eleven

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PM on July first, twenty nineteen, Lasha face timed her father. He

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then changed into his pajamas before getting
ready for bed. Unfortunately, he wouldn't

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be getting any rest that evening.
William's daughter, Consula, said that a

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female friend had shown up at the
house and said ride home. William got

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out of bed and left with this
friend. Family members said that the trip

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to her home should not have taken
very long. William had often given her

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rides in the past, so the
request wasn't suspicious. A few hours later,

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Leacheya's son became concerned when his grandfather
had not returned home. He had

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to call the friend because his grandfather
had left his phone at home. Unfortunately,

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he wasn't able to speak to his
grandfather's friend because she did not answer

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her phone. The next morning,
the family discovered that William's two thousand and

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one Lincoln had been corden off by
law enforcement. His vehicle had become a

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crime scene. William, still in
his pajamas, was discovered outside his vehicle

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at Blaine and Centennial. Someone had
beaten the elderly grandfather to death. His

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skull was bashed in and his teeth
were all knocked out. The beating was

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violent and fatal. Family members were
stunned by William's death. No one could

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understand why anyone would want to kill
the elderly man. Everyone loved him and

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he had no known enemies. The
family also noticed that the friend who was

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with William was not at the crime
scene. Consuela got into her vehicle and

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searched for the friend. She found
the friend walking down a road. Consuela

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picked her up and drove her to
the Munzi police station. According to Consuela

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and Laschia, law enforcement let the
friend leave without filing any charges against her.

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Consuela then began investigating her father's death
on her own. She spoke with

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a witness who lived with her father's
friend. According to him, the woman

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came home upset. She allegedly had
blood on her clothing and had defecated on

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herself. According to the witness,
the friend said that she had just murdered

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someone. She then recanted her statement
and said that she was only kidding after

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cleaning herself up. He said that
she left in a hurry when she made

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this statement. The man that lived
with the friend had not known about William

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being killed. He presented Consuela with
an article of bloody clothing that belonged to

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the friend. Law enforcement refused to
accept the evidence because they weren't the ones

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who had seized it. I had
asked both sisters why law enforcement didn't arrest

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her father's friend. Both said that
she claimed that she did not know anything

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about their father's death. According to
her, he must have been killed after

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he drove her home. However,
this contradicts the witness's statement, who said

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she came home upset with blood on
her clothing. The witness said that she

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was frantic and was in a hurry
to leave. Four years have passed since

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someone brutally beat William Balfour Senior to
death. Consuela has photographs of her father's

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beaten body. According to her,
she has refused to let other family members

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see the photos because she feels that
they are too brutal. The family is

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frustrated with the investigation and have requested
that the Munsey Police Department transfer the case

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to the Indiana State Police. They
believe that the Indiana State Police would be

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better suited to work on their father's
case. Family members believe that William's friend

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knows more about his death than she's
ever revealed. This is the conclusion of

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a two part story. If you
haven't already listened to the first half,

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please go back and take a listen, and now on with the story of

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William Balfourt Senior, as told by
his daughter Consuela. So tell me about

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your father. William Balfour senior.
When in where was he born. He

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was born in Mundsey on April seventeenth
of nineteen forty nine. He had three

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brothers and he had five sisters.
Actually, because one died when he was

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young. My father was the middle
of the three brothers. His parents died

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when he was young, So I
really don't know a whole lot about my

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grandparents because they were defeats when I
was born. He was raised by a

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family member and grew up, you
know, by his auntie that raised him

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and two other sisters. The other
siblings were raised by a different aunt So

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my father he grew up, graduated
from high school, and he started working

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at General Motors, where he retired
from. So he met my mom,

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they got married and had four kids, myself as the oldest. I had

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two brothers and a sister. It
sounds like you're father lived a pretty good

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life. I mean General Motors back
in the day, that was definitely a

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great place to work. Your dad
came up in the days where you could

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get a job right out of high
school, make good money and stay there

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and actually retire. Yeah, and
that's what he did. He retired from

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General Motors. So, like I
said, he raised four kids, and

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once he retired, he just was
at home. Him and my mom ended

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up divorcing though when I was around
fifteen, so but they end up remaining

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still cordial, close friends. He's
still holidays, we still sent together things

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like that. There was no animosity
where both our parents was not around at

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some holiday or something. They were
generally around. People thought it was trained

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for the time because my mom ended
up getting remarried, but Dad still was

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always welcoming around. So as life
went on, we all grew up and

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had grandkids and things like that.
My dad he worked on cars, always

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working in the yard. He loved
to cook on the grill. On the

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holiday, we would go to my
mother's and then my mom ended up passing

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in two thousand ten, so then
them, like all the family events went

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to my dad's house, and so
we would always go to his house where

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the holiday. He was well known
in our community. They know him as

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mister Balfour. He helped whoever he
could help. Like I said, he

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worked on his cards. He would
see him at Autos oone getting some kind

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of part, or at Walmart buying's
pop. He loved pipsy, so that's

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what he did. He drink a
lot of pippy, and he worked on

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cars, worked in the yard,
or cooked on the grill. He didn't

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party, he didn't drink anything like
that. He was lips in his family

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and his grandkids is what he did. And while I was doing research on

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this case, I was looking at
different theories online about why someone would have

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wanted to harm your father, and
one of the theories that I saw was

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connected to one of his grandsons.
I guess one of your nephews was on

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trial for homicide or something along those
lines. But it was serious legal issues,

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and supposedly your father was killed in
retaliation of something that his grandson had

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done. Do you think there's anything
to that? I know it's just someone's

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theory, but what do you think
about that? Okay? So I had

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two nephews who had got in some
trouble and the victim, my father's African

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American first, and my family is
the victim of the case with my nephews

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was a white victim, a young
white male. And what we were told

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is that this family has connections in
Munsti. And we was told that when

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my nephew went to trial, he
basically had a hung jury and they were

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furious. People were upset about my
nephew getting a hung jury. They had

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basically placed an attorney on his case
that they thought was not going to give

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a care and was not going to
fight for my nephew, and this attorney

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fought his hell off and it was
a hung jury. So the day that

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my father was murdered was the anniversary
of that victim of that case. My

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father was killed on the anniversary of
the victim of my nephew's case. We

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were sent a message by someone in
the community that a police officer and Monkey

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had told them And I don't know
the police officer's name, I didn't know

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the person that came to us that
there was a letter sent to Monkey police

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that said there will be another one
killed. When we contacted the police,

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they were were so worried about what
police officer told us that the fact that

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if there was a really a letter
or not out there that came to them,

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they want to know who told us
and which police officer more or less

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not telling us if it really was
a letter out there or not, because

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at the time we're thinking, Okay, my father's then got killed. On

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this guy. Day of his death
of his anniversary. Now we're being told

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that someone else in my family better
be careful because someone else is going to

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be taken out. So we felt
like it had something to do with that

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case. Now, what kind of
a relationship did your dad have with his

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nephews? Was he close to them? Those were his grandson? Oh okay,

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my apologies, his grandsons. Can
you tell me about their relationship?

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Yeah, that was his grandson,
and the one grandson is the third.

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His name is actually William Balfo,
the third. So my dad was William

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Balfo, the senior, and those
was his grandkids. So yeah, he

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was close to them. Okay,
Now I'd like to go back to the

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day that you found out that someone
had killed your father. Tell me what

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you remember about that day. My
sister had called me and said my dad

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hadn't been home all night, had
left to give. We had a family

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friend that my dad knew for over
twelve thirteen years. The lady. My

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dad helped her quite a bit.
Her kids had been in trouble a few

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times. He let them stay with
them, They came over, they came

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to our family functions, things like
that. Later in life, the lady

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ended up getting on drugs at one
point, but still we allowed them come

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around. We didn't act funny.
We still helped when we can help.

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The same person was over my house. It was like Father's Day, the

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holiday before my dad got killed.
She was just at our house eating dinner

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and she there. She came over
that night and asked my dad to give

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her a ride. My dad got
out the bed, My nephew and my

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brother was there. He ended up
getting out the bed to go give her

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a ride wherever she quote said she
needed to go, and I was at

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home sleep. I didn't know he
got to go give anybody a ride.

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The next morning I'll find out he
had got up and gave her a ride

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and never came at home. So
when I got the call, I WoT

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my son daughter had called off.
Everybody left. He don't know where Dad

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is because he just didn't stay out
like all night. He was seven years

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old, you know, he didn't
love those staying now where he had one

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house and we were searching and got
a call that his car was on the

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side of a road out here in
the dominant black neighborhood. His car was

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out there and the police was called
and it was roped off. By the

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time I got there, and my
dad was laying outside of the car.

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He still had his pajamas one and
he was laying outside behind the car,

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and the police was there, and
it roped off and he was deceased,

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and you know, we're just like, what happened? Where's the lady?

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Where is she at? He less
to give her a ride, the police

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officanding around, is like, I
don't know. I still remember. The

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prosecutor was there and I'll never forget. He came up to me talking about,

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well, what do you think happen? And I'm thinking, in my

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mind, what are you asking me? What do I think happen? You're

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freaking supposed to be the specialist.
You see his body, What do you

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think happen? I don't know.
I was just so angry. But come

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to find out, she was nowhere
to be found. And the police told

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us that it looked like had been
killed by trauma, blunt force or something,

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and they was asking us do we
know if he had any objects in

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the car that someone could have hurt
him with, and like, no,

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he doesn't have anything in this car, no hits and all that stuff.

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So after all of that, I
left the scene eventually and my siblings we

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all left the scene going to look
for this woman and I end up finding

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her walking down the street and I
called police to tell him I found her.

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Here is the woman that got my
dad out of the house that night.

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And they was like, don't do
anything to her, we're on our

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way or whatever, and I'm like, no, she's right here. She's

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getting in my car with me and
I'm bringing her to you guys. And

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so I got her in the car. She didn't want again, and I

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told her, she you're gonna get
in this car because you're going down here

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to tell him what happened to my
dad. And took her down to the

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police station and they met us there
and told us to stay in the car

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while they got her out the car. And it is and then we find

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out that they let her go,
like an hour or two hours after she

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was there. They let her go
because she said she didn't know what happened

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to my father and she didn't have
anything to do with it. And I'm

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thinking, when can someone that last
seen a person alive just tell you they

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didn't have anything to do with it
and you just let them go. Where

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do they do that at I don't
understand that. So long story short.

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After all of that, we end
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she was going to this man's house, and I end up getting a

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call that she was going to his
house, and I went over there to

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talk to him, and he told
me that she had came over there early

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in the wee hours and said she
had just witnessed the murder and he was

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going to call the police, and
that this woman said, no, I'm

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just playing. I'm just playing.
Don't call the police. So he didn't

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call the police. But she changed
her clothes and worshed them, and his

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worsher and dry and she worshed her
clothes, are changed clothes, that she

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had a bow movement on herself,
and she had he thought looked like maybe

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blood or something. But she changed
clothes and he had gave her some clothes

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to put on. His first name
is Wayne, he said when he did

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call the police to tell him that
there was a jacket outside his house and

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that it's possibly could be blood on
it, they telling him that they did

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not need that item because it did
not have nothing to do with their investigation,

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so they wouldn't even go collect the
jacket that he thought she might have

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threw outside his house with blood on
the jacket, so he contacted my family

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against I went over there and I
called the detectives, and I even got

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text message from the detectives. They
told me that I can go get the

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jacket and put it in the bag
and bring it the city hall to them,

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and I end up doing that,
not knowing that once I did that,

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it made that evidence could not be
actually used because I could have possibly

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placed blood on it or something of
that nature, so that would avoid that

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item. But I didn't know.
But this is what we were dealing with

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the police. They wasn't trying to
get any evidence or anything. And you

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let this woman go, and you
got a man that fancy came through his

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house saying she had just witnessed the
murder, and you let her go.

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And what we end up finding out
is after they let her go, they

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knew she was leaving town. They
didn't tell us. We end up finding

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out later that she had a ticket
to leave on the Greyhound bus and they

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knew she was gonna leave, So
she ended up leaving town. And then

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we found out more evidence, like
she was at a man's house Prior to

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going to my dad's to ask for
a ride, someone called her on her

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phone and the man said that she
would saying my father's name, and she

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had someone pick her up from his
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Which is strange. Why would you
have someone call you and you tell

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him on my dad's name, and
then you go to my dad and say

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you need a ride when you actually
was in a car with someone. It

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just it didn't make sense to It
was like, what's going on if she

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had a ride and she left this
man's house in a car, but then

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she goes to my dad's house and
asked for a ride, And she didn't

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stab my dad's house like she was
there visiting for a few minutes and then

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needed to ride. She literally come
over there and knocked on the be where

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my nephew said, asked for a
ride, and my dad got up and

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they left. So why have somebody
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And then it just didn't add up, and she did leave her house her

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curse at the man's house where she
was on a phone act. He said

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she left her purse and her cell
phone and told him to continue to answer

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her phone. All night. If
it rings, just don't talk, just

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answer it and hang up. And
we told the police this, do you

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know it took them five to six
months to ever go get this man's statement.

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They would not go get his statement. We kept calling him, kept

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calling him. I kept going over
to his house, asked him how they

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been there. They would not go
to this man's statement. It took him

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like five months. I have notes
like in a documentation that we keep it.

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It took them start a month.
It's like the police would not go

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collect evidence. So at this time
we start thinking, what is the police

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covering up? You refused to go
investigate my father's murder. This is a

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seventy year old man that his left
hand did not work because of a pinched

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nerves, so he couldn't use his
left hand that much, and so here

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he is murdered. And at the
time we didn't know how bad he was

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murdered. But when we had my
father's funeral and the funeral home had took

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it up on their self because they
seen the injury on my father and they

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couldn't believe how bad my father was. A beat whoever killed my father they

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used something and busted his head so
that explained why the police asked us about

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something in his car that could have
caused a fracture to it, you know,

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something of that nature. The funeral
home end up giving me pictures,

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and I end up seeing the pictures, but come to find out, they

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bust my father's skull open. He's
seventy years he had never lost the tooth.

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Be the proud of himself cause his
dinner's always told him he had drown

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teeth to be an old, older
man and never lost the tooth. They

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knocked out almost all my father's keep
out of his mouth. They broke his

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eye socket, and they choked him
so strong that his collar bone busted through

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his shoulder. And you tell me, the police don't let us I know

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who did this. That's over till
of a seventy year old defenseless man,

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and they won't help us. We
asked them, and I feel like again

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we go back to my nephew case. They're pissed off about my nephew in

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that situation, and because you pissed
off about that, you refuse to do

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your job on my father's case.
And it just pisses me off. And

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then the way my cap father's card
was pulled over to the side of the

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road. We were like, why
would that he even pull over like that?

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Did the police pull him over?
Is it possible that the police is

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involved, because we also end up
finding out that we have police officers now

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if you google it and find out
Chase Linkle being the main lead police officer

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and his father was the chief of
police for this story. I wanted to

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understand why Consula fought that a Munsey
police officer might have beaten her father or

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been involved with his death, because
I had read in some different articles online

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that the family had questioned whether law
enforcement was involved or not. So I

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wanted to learn more about former Munsey
police officer Chase Swinkle. I was able

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to find information about him on the
United States Department of Justice website, and

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I wanted to read some of the
information that I found out about this guy.

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Chase Swinkle, a former police officer
with the Munsey Police Department and Munsey,

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Indiana, played guilty today to eleven
civil rights and obstruction charges. Specifically,

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Winkle plead guilty to five federal civil
rights offenses for assaulting arrestees and to

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six obstruction offenses for writing false reports
to cover up the assaults. Officer Winkle,

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the son of a former chief of
police, confessed to repeated uses of

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excessive force and obstruction of justice,
said Assistant Attorney General Kristen Clark of the

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Justice Department's Civil Rights Division. This
defendant's misconduct injured his victims and undermined the

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police department's credibility with the community.
We hope that this guilty police sends a

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message that neither a badge our familial
connections will shield an officer from facing justice

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for his wrongdoing. Today's guilty police
are an important step forward as we seek

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justice for the victims in this case, said US Attorney Zachary A. Myers

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for the Southern District of Indiana.
Our office, the Department of Justice,

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and our federal partners are firmly committed
to holding law enforcement officers accountable when they

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violate their oaths and the civil rights
of the people they were sworn to protect.

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According to court documents and statements made
during the change of play hearing Honor,

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about August ninth, twenty eighteen,
Winkle and another officer arrested a civilian

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identified as LG. As LG was
lying on the ground with the other officer

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holding both of LG's hands behind his
back. LG directed a verbal insult towards

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the officers. In response to the
insult, Officer Winkle, using his knee,

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dropped his full body weight down onto
LG's neck and head area. LG

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screamed out in pain and yelled that
Winkle had crushed his face. A few

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moments later, Winkle deployed taser prongs
and to LG's back and activated the taser.

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Officer Winkle's use of force caused severe
bodily injury to LG and multiple facial

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fractures that required surgery. Following the
incident, Winkle wrote a false report about

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what happened. Based on what I've
read about Winkle in the time this was

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going on, it's not difficult to
understand why can Swiler's family has concerns about

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the police department and why they want
the investigation being handled by the Indiana State

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Police. They had been going through
monthly beaten up people and beating people with

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their police stick. There's charges of
them using assessed courts on people. There's

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a main isem he got beat by
the police real bad here. He had

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a lawsuit and won quite a bit
of money where Winkle and his whole crew.

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I think it was a night crew
they called There's they did some kind

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of night crew. They was going
through challenges beating people. Another gentleman he

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won a lawsuit. They pulled him
over and could him out the car,

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and they waited for Chase Winkle to
get there, and then they just savagely

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beat this man. So I'm wondering, did they do this to my five?

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Then you don't want to investigate it? Is it because your officer might

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be involved? At this point,
I don't trust you. You don't want

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to solve it. Why not?
He was instant, He didn't have a

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record. My father never been in
trouble, He didn't hurt nobody worked like

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I said. He worked until he
retired. That was it, And you

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don't want to solve it. So
we asked them to pass it on to

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the state Police, and they refused
to do it. They said the case

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is still open, but yet they
haven't done anything on the case based on

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the criminal actions of Chase Winkle.
The family doesn't trust the Monsey Police Department

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and has unsuccessfully requested the Indiana State
Police take over the investigation. The family

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doesn't feel as if the Monsey Police
Department have put much of an effort into

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William's case. We will take a
short break and return with Consuali's thoughts on

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the police investigation and to her father's
homicide and why she doesn't feel confident in

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the Munsey Police Department's ability to solve
her father's case. Have you tried reaching

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out to the State Police and asking
them for help. I've reached the State

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Police, and yes, I took
my notebook to the SBI in Indianapolis.

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I took them everything that I had, all my notes, all my pictures,

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everything. I took pictures of the
crime scene. I took pictures everything.

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I went door to door asking for
video. We couldn't even get them

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collect video. But when it happened, and like the service station down the

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street from where my dad's body was, they couldn't give me the tape,

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which I'm fine with, but they
said the police never came to him,

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so after a while it was erased. You see what I'm saying, Like

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you're on if you're working a murder
case. Me, I'm not even a

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cut, but I know to do
surveillance and neighborhood to see if anyone has

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a ring, doorbells, a camera. We didn't get any of that.

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They didn't even walk my father's scene
to look for his keys because his keys

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was missing and its bilfoe was missing. They hadn't even walked the scene of

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where my father was for he got
killed in July. It was during near

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December when they walked the area to
look for stuff. And that's only because

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of the State Police. When we
contacted the state police and we were asking

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for help, and they were trying
to help us and do what they could,

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but they couldn't take over the case
because Muncy's chief police would not re

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lease the case. They said it
was still open. So it put a

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hold where the state police couldn't come
in full of force and work the case

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because Munsey won't release it. Why
won't you release it if you don't have

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nothing to hide, and if you
if you can't solve it, then let

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a fresh pair of eyes look at
it. And they refused to why are

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you holding onto the case? I
don't understand now. Have you ever requested

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to meet with the Munsey Chief of
Police and discuss your father's case with him?

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Yes, yes, we met with
the police and we met with the

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mayor. Is it going to ever
get solved? If you can help us,

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we appreciate it. But Mony Police
they're not gonna help us. I've

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called them three weeks ago. I
left the message, I didn't get called

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back. I called one other time
since then, they haven't come me back.

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I mean, what else do you
do? The State police can't help

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because Monthy won't release it. When
I went to the FBI, they looked

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at everything I had and they said
there's no way they shouldn't be able to

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kind of break this case with everything
that I got myself to be in a

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civilian, like all the notes and
everything. I've even showed them and told

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them and even the lady, but
they let go now. They said they

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need her DNA. I end up
finding the lady in Fairmont, Ohio,

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and she was on probation down there
for something. And I called the Monkey

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police and told them where she was
located at, and the chief probation or

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probation officer down there said that they
would make sure they can keep her get

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her there where they can get her
DNA if they wanted it, and Monkey

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police wouldn't go get it. And
then she got off probation and I don't

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know where she went from there,
but they wouldn't even go get it.

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And I'm like, she's there,
she has to checkin. They will keep

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her in the office or whatever you
need. If you call them, they

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would arrange with daw so y'all can
get her DNA if that's what you need.

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And they wouldn't even do that.
Okay. So he said that his

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wallet was missing, So with that
was robbery the motivation behind this killing in

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your opinion, no, because I'm
gonna say this, if they robbed my

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father and the motive was robbery,
his bank cards and things was in his

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wallet. The bank that he had, Region Bank, and we talked to

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them several times. Region Bank said, no one's ever attempted to take any

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money out of my father's account before
we closed the count or even after,

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like even after we had stayed in
contact with him, because we had a

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good a poor with them. No
one's ever tried to withdraw any money even

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attempt to use his card. So
if you're trying to rob somebody, you're

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going to try and take some money
out that bank because you don't know how

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much they gout or anything. His
card was never used, so to take

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his wallet was to make us think
it was robbery. That's what our thinking,

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because if it's a crackhead, or
like you said, if it was

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someone trying to rob him for money, they're gonna take his bilfo. But

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you got a bank card, you
got a credit card there. They don't

408
00:33:06.680 --> 00:33:08.720
even try to use his debit cards
or anything. And dad had money in

409
00:33:08.799 --> 00:33:14.079
his account, so that it wasn't
a robbery. So how do you know

410
00:33:14.279 --> 00:33:19.759
that your father's friend wasn't the person
who took the wallet. She could took

411
00:33:19.799 --> 00:33:22.400
it, but she did not try
to get no money. Whoever took the

412
00:33:22.480 --> 00:33:27.400
wallet, they got the wallet,
I don't know if it's her, whoever

413
00:33:27.599 --> 00:33:30.079
took it, wherever it is,
they never attempt to get any money out

414
00:33:30.119 --> 00:33:34.839
of his make account. Now do
you know if your father was carrying cash

415
00:33:34.880 --> 00:33:37.960
and his wallet on that particular evening, Yeah, so he might have had

416
00:33:37.960 --> 00:33:42.720
a few dollars, It wasn't nothing
substantial. It would might have been twenty

417
00:33:42.839 --> 00:33:47.640
thirty dollars something like that. But
if somebody's robbing somebody, they don't try

418
00:33:47.720 --> 00:33:52.480
and get the money off the card
at least or something. At some point

419
00:33:52.519 --> 00:33:55.519
I would think you would attempt to
try to use credit card or something.

420
00:33:57.279 --> 00:34:00.359
I don't know, but they did
take his wallet. And has it been

421
00:34:00.440 --> 00:34:07.880
confirmed that your father's friend was the
last person to have been seen with him

422
00:34:07.000 --> 00:34:10.599
on the night that he was killed, the last one seen with him.

423
00:34:10.800 --> 00:34:15.559
And you know what else they said
she had. My brother did some research

424
00:34:15.639 --> 00:34:20.320
and he had proved she had a
couple of charges that was pending on our

425
00:34:20.400 --> 00:34:24.199
system here in Delaware County. After
my dad died. A few weeks later,

426
00:34:24.400 --> 00:34:30.880
all her charges were gone. There's
nothing of her on there as her

427
00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:34.719
cases like, you know, like
they've gone, like where's her car or

428
00:34:34.800 --> 00:34:37.199
her worst cases? All of a
sudden, now she don't have to go

429
00:34:37.280 --> 00:34:40.360
to quarter or anything. Everything was
gone. It didn't make sense. So

430
00:34:40.599 --> 00:34:43.920
kind of felt like, did someone
pay her to get my dad out of

431
00:34:43.960 --> 00:34:49.159
the house? Because we've been on
you forever. Why did you disappear?

432
00:34:49.480 --> 00:34:52.960
Somebody who always called and come around
after my dad got killed, she never

433
00:34:53.159 --> 00:34:57.639
came back around. She never called, She didn't even try to come to

434
00:34:57.719 --> 00:35:00.639
the service. And I'm saying,
this is someone we saved your kids from

435
00:35:00.679 --> 00:35:06.639
going to the children's home. You
know, nothing, just nothing. Now,

436
00:35:06.760 --> 00:35:09.800
have you spoken to the friends since
the night that you took her to

437
00:35:09.880 --> 00:35:15.639
the police department. No, we
have note since we church took her to

438
00:35:15.719 --> 00:35:19.760
the police stations, we have not
heard from that lady, not once,

439
00:35:20.119 --> 00:35:24.119
and that's why I tracked her to
Ohio. So she's a key player in

440
00:35:24.239 --> 00:35:29.760
this. She has to know much
more than what she said about it.

441
00:35:30.880 --> 00:35:35.920
But you and your sister are both
said that law enforcement hasn't really spoken too

442
00:35:36.079 --> 00:35:40.559
much to this woman about your father's
homicide. No, the police let her

443
00:35:40.599 --> 00:35:45.840
go and that was it. Had
a We called them once because we heard

444
00:35:45.920 --> 00:35:50.199
she was in town and they told
us. What was they say back then?

445
00:35:50.320 --> 00:35:52.360
We called him and said we heard
she was here, and they fit

446
00:35:52.519 --> 00:35:57.079
something like, no, we would
thought she was here, but that's not

447
00:35:57.239 --> 00:36:01.559
her, or something like I don't
know. They nothing that we turned into

448
00:36:01.639 --> 00:36:07.039
him is relevant. We'd tell him
we felt like they could talk to a

449
00:36:07.119 --> 00:36:08.719
couple of people that was in jail
and they would tell us stuff like,

450
00:36:08.800 --> 00:36:10.760
oh, they don't like us,
they don't want to talk to us,

451
00:36:12.119 --> 00:36:15.519
they're not gonna tell usnssing. But
aren't you supposed to try And a lot

452
00:36:15.559 --> 00:36:17.400
of people don't like the police,
But aren't you supposed to at least try

453
00:36:17.440 --> 00:36:22.159
and talk to people? I don't
get it. It's like anything most of

454
00:36:22.199 --> 00:36:24.440
the things we try to tell them
it just like I said with the man

455
00:36:24.920 --> 00:36:30.000
and he died now Ricky, I
can't think of Ricky's last name, but

456
00:36:30.079 --> 00:36:32.400
Ricky's passed now. He was the
man that kept her cell phone and kept

457
00:36:32.440 --> 00:36:36.119
answering the phone for her that night. It took you six months to go

458
00:36:36.280 --> 00:36:38.880
talk to him. That seemed like
something you would want to know them right

459
00:36:38.960 --> 00:36:44.920
away and get documented. It was
nothing to no urgency on anything that we

460
00:36:45.159 --> 00:36:47.000
told him. There's a guy he
just died. His name is Michael.

461
00:36:47.119 --> 00:36:51.920
They said he had something to do
with it or some kind of involvement in

462
00:36:52.039 --> 00:36:54.199
it. We told them about him
and listened to this. This is the

463
00:36:54.280 --> 00:36:58.159
crazy stuff. We stopped him on
the street, me and my cousin,

464
00:36:58.559 --> 00:37:00.599
and we was asking him about my
father's desk, and he was like,

465
00:37:00.719 --> 00:37:05.440
oh, he can take us somewhere
in the country to some people's house that

466
00:37:05.559 --> 00:37:07.920
could tell us about it. Like, what are you not taking me to

467
00:37:07.000 --> 00:37:10.239
no country? Nothing. But at
the same time we're talking to him,

468
00:37:10.239 --> 00:37:14.559
it looked like it was drops the
blood on his Kinnis shoes. So my

469
00:37:14.719 --> 00:37:17.119
cousin and I are standing there talking
to him, and she's taken pictures of

470
00:37:17.239 --> 00:37:21.440
his shoes. While we're talking to
this man, we call the police,

471
00:37:21.480 --> 00:37:23.679
we tell him what he was telling
us, and all of this. They

472
00:37:23.800 --> 00:37:28.360
asked, that's did we take his
shoes? Did you get his shoes?

473
00:37:28.920 --> 00:37:31.440
Look, we're about to take the
man's shoes off of him. Like what

474
00:37:31.639 --> 00:37:36.000
your mean? Did we get his
shoes? That's the kind of stuff we're

475
00:37:36.039 --> 00:37:40.280
dealing with. Like really, So
it's just been horrible. I mean,

476
00:37:40.360 --> 00:37:45.559
getting any help with my dad's cage
for real, it's been horrible. But

477
00:37:45.079 --> 00:37:49.679
if you see the pictures, and
I'm I'm not gonna send them to you

478
00:37:49.719 --> 00:37:52.480
because I don't want to open the
end of it. But I have the

479
00:37:52.599 --> 00:37:54.679
pictures. I've sent him out before, but I just I'm not gonna look

480
00:37:54.719 --> 00:38:00.400
at it. It's hard to get
out your mind. But my father it

481
00:38:00.559 --> 00:38:04.480
was like Emmett kill. If you've
seen the pictures of Emmett till On,

482
00:38:05.039 --> 00:38:08.000
that's how my father looked. Like. They took his eye socket and put

483
00:38:08.159 --> 00:38:14.840
a plumb that shriveled up in his
eye socket. I mean, his skull

484
00:38:15.199 --> 00:38:20.599
broke. It is horrible, horrible, horrible, horrible. And I got

485
00:38:20.639 --> 00:38:23.000
the futures because the funeral home sent
on to me. They was like,

486
00:38:23.239 --> 00:38:28.519
this is overkill. That's exactly what
they said, this is overkill. It's

487
00:38:28.559 --> 00:38:34.280
now been over four years since the
death of William Balfour Senior. This man

488
00:38:34.480 --> 00:38:37.639
was a seven year old grandfather,
with no criminal record, with no enemies.

489
00:38:38.320 --> 00:38:43.760
He was beloved by pretty much everyone
that knew him. So who would

490
00:38:43.840 --> 00:38:47.559
kill this man and why today the
family doesn't know much more than what they

491
00:38:47.639 --> 00:38:52.320
knew four years ago. We will
take a final break and when we return,

492
00:38:53.159 --> 00:38:59.119
we'll listen to Ensuala's final thoughts on
what she thinks might have happened to

493
00:38:59.280 --> 00:39:04.480
her father and why she doesn't think
that The Monzi Police Department has been very

494
00:39:04.559 --> 00:39:22.119
successful in finding out who killed her
father. And while I was doing research

495
00:39:22.199 --> 00:39:28.039
on this case and just reading up
on it, I didn't see any information

496
00:39:28.199 --> 00:39:34.480
released about how he died. From
what I understand, he wasn't shot to

497
00:39:34.559 --> 00:39:38.679
death and he wasn't stabbed to death. But other than that, the police

498
00:39:38.719 --> 00:39:44.559
didn't release any other details about how
he was killed. He was eat to

499
00:39:44.639 --> 00:39:46.599
death, my father, and I'm
telling you his teeth. He was so

500
00:39:46.800 --> 00:39:51.519
proud of having teeth because he told
me to read, because he called me

501
00:39:51.639 --> 00:39:54.360
red when I went to the dentist
but didn't said I'm doing good for old

502
00:39:54.440 --> 00:39:59.719
man and have all my teeth.
My teeth was strong. I would definitely

503
00:39:59.760 --> 00:40:05.360
say aids at at his age.
That's a great accomplishment. No dentures,

504
00:40:06.119 --> 00:40:12.719
having all your teeth, that's definitely
not something that's probably normal among the American

505
00:40:12.800 --> 00:40:16.239
population. Yeah, and his teeth
was knocked all out his mouth, and

506
00:40:16.360 --> 00:40:20.960
man, that took some force to
knock his teethed out and stuck in his

507
00:40:21.079 --> 00:40:24.320
shirt. According to what we end
up reading in the documents from the doctors,

508
00:40:24.360 --> 00:40:28.519
like his teeth on his shirt and
in his mouth stuck in and award

509
00:40:28.880 --> 00:40:32.239
and knocked them out and stuff.
It's horrible. And the mayor telling us

510
00:40:32.280 --> 00:40:36.840
that the police is going to work
on it. Now, tell me about

511
00:40:36.920 --> 00:40:40.880
the location of where your father was
found. How far was it from his

512
00:40:42.000 --> 00:40:47.280
house? Oh god, you have
to ask me that drive? Why it

513
00:40:47.440 --> 00:40:52.639
being our town, isn't that huge? I would say from his house to

514
00:40:52.719 --> 00:40:58.119
where he's found tops eight minutes or
so, eight ten minutes. But the

515
00:40:58.239 --> 00:41:01.960
thing is the people people had been
in that area that night, Like we

516
00:41:02.239 --> 00:41:07.800
talked to people that had been out
that night, and my father wasn't there

517
00:41:07.360 --> 00:41:10.280
at midnight. You see what I'm
saying, like he left his house.

518
00:41:10.440 --> 00:41:14.719
I think they said close to ten
thirty eleven. He wasn't out there at

519
00:41:14.800 --> 00:41:19.320
midnight. And then we have one
person's statement that was out there about one

520
00:41:19.559 --> 00:41:23.440
thirty two o'clock. He wasn't out
there then, so he was his body

521
00:41:23.599 --> 00:41:30.400
was placed out there somewhere after two
thirty up until that wee hours in the

522
00:41:30.480 --> 00:41:35.039
morning. Like the gentleman Michael McGee
that died. He said, when he

523
00:41:35.239 --> 00:41:39.199
walked through there, my dad's car
was there, and he looked in the

524
00:41:39.280 --> 00:41:45.320
windows of the car because the back
passenger window was cracked, and he looked

525
00:41:45.360 --> 00:41:47.000
in the window, probably thought he
was Gary still something. Didn't know whose

526
00:41:47.079 --> 00:41:51.840
car it was, but he said
he didn't find Dad there. He said,

527
00:41:51.880 --> 00:41:54.400
I didn't see nobody there. There's
no way you couldn't see a body

528
00:41:54.440 --> 00:41:58.800
where my dad was placed right behind
the trunk on the ground for him to

529
00:41:58.840 --> 00:42:01.000
be walking by, that's the first
thing. Once you get past the car,

530
00:42:01.079 --> 00:42:05.119
you're gonna see the body because my
dad was even with the back of

531
00:42:05.159 --> 00:42:08.000
the trump So his car sounds like
it was there at one point, and

532
00:42:08.079 --> 00:42:14.199
then later his body was there.
Because Michael clearly said he did not see

533
00:42:14.239 --> 00:42:16.800
a body there that while he walked
by, and that he admitted he looked

534
00:42:16.880 --> 00:42:21.599
in the windows to see if anything
was in the car. And what time

535
00:42:21.679 --> 00:42:24.639
did he say that he walked by
your father's car. Don't quote me on

536
00:42:24.880 --> 00:42:29.559
I want to say Michael said he
was there between two and two thirty.

537
00:42:30.480 --> 00:42:34.719
Myron, Myron Murphy lived right on
the corner. He's a think he's a

538
00:42:34.840 --> 00:42:37.880
fireman. I think he might be
a fireman, but he lives on that

539
00:42:37.000 --> 00:42:43.280
corner, and he was on his
way to work, and he's seen the

540
00:42:43.480 --> 00:42:49.079
car maybe about six thirty seven.
And oh, I got another name for

541
00:42:49.199 --> 00:42:57.079
you too. Let me think it's
another guy that seen my dad's body,

542
00:42:57.480 --> 00:43:00.039
And it was somewhere between six thirty
and seven. He was on his way

543
00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:02.519
to work and he's seen the body. He said he thought he was somebody

544
00:43:02.639 --> 00:43:08.000
just drunk or something on the ground, not knowing he was dead. He

545
00:43:08.079 --> 00:43:12.480
didn't know if they was drunk or
working on the car. So between six

546
00:43:12.599 --> 00:43:15.639
thirty seven, my father's body was
seen. I think I got out there

547
00:43:16.159 --> 00:43:22.159
somewhere between seven thirty and eight.
So I don't know when. I mean,

548
00:43:22.239 --> 00:43:24.920
we don't know if when exactly he
was placed there, because you got

549
00:43:25.199 --> 00:43:29.840
people saying he was not there at
twelve, he wasn't there at one thirty.

550
00:43:30.159 --> 00:43:34.000
So somewhere between one thirty and I'm
gonna say six in the morning up

551
00:43:34.039 --> 00:43:37.599
to seven, he was there.
Do you know the exact route that he

552
00:43:37.719 --> 00:43:40.000
took. Was he just taking her
home? Do you know if he had

553
00:43:40.039 --> 00:43:45.639
to stop somewhere else or was it
just straight from his house to her house?

554
00:43:46.480 --> 00:43:50.599
We don't know. She told the
police, and according to the police

555
00:43:50.719 --> 00:43:57.280
is that she dropped her off downtown
in Monday. So downtown from Monsty from

556
00:43:57.320 --> 00:44:00.559
where my dad was found it is
probably five minutes. So so if he

557
00:44:00.679 --> 00:44:06.000
went downtown to take her home,
why would he go to White Lee after

558
00:44:06.079 --> 00:44:07.800
he dropped her off, because he
could turn around and go right at com

559
00:44:08.239 --> 00:44:13.559
you know, like from our town
to where daddy is four to five minutes.

560
00:44:13.679 --> 00:44:16.280
You know, like if you dropped
her off uptown in money, then

561
00:44:16.480 --> 00:44:21.079
go straight back down the street is
go to your house? Hired you on

562
00:44:21.199 --> 00:44:23.559
the whole other side of town.
And he had his pajamas on, and

563
00:44:23.880 --> 00:44:29.440
how should he's like he was in
the bed suet prior that. Why would

564
00:44:29.480 --> 00:44:31.639
he all of a sudden be on
this other side of town. So based

565
00:44:31.679 --> 00:44:36.679
on where his car was located,
it wouldn't make any sense for his car

566
00:44:36.800 --> 00:44:40.559
to be there if he had just
took her home and then came straight home.

567
00:44:40.760 --> 00:44:46.119
Is that correct right then? That
means maybe somebody else took the car

568
00:44:46.280 --> 00:44:53.400
there after your father was killed.
But we know that the car wasn't on

569
00:44:53.519 --> 00:45:00.440
the path back to his house.
No, No, it's that's we tried

570
00:45:00.440 --> 00:45:02.719
to tell the police. I feel
like they put him in the car here.

571
00:45:02.800 --> 00:45:07.000
I don't think he was. I
don't think he was killed there.

572
00:45:07.000 --> 00:45:10.519
The police trying to tell me he
was. I don't think he was killed

573
00:45:10.559 --> 00:45:14.840
there for a fact, Michael McGee
when he said he looked in that car,

574
00:45:14.960 --> 00:45:17.280
my dad wasn't nobody in the car
and he didn't see my dad's body.

575
00:45:17.519 --> 00:45:22.360
Ever, he walked away from the
car, so he was not.

576
00:45:22.639 --> 00:45:25.840
No, I don't think he was
killed there. And another thing I don't

577
00:45:25.920 --> 00:45:30.039
feel like the police wants to solve
this is because they told my father's car

578
00:45:30.159 --> 00:45:36.920
in the Northwest record and we started
calling asking about the car. When could

579
00:45:36.920 --> 00:45:39.440
he be released because it's his car. We wanted to get the car back.

580
00:45:39.599 --> 00:45:43.559
They kept telling us they was process
in the car. They processed in

581
00:45:43.599 --> 00:45:46.159
the car, we couldn't get a
car yet. So eventually, almost a

582
00:45:46.199 --> 00:45:52.159
week later, I ended up getting
a bill in the mail for three hundred

583
00:45:52.199 --> 00:45:55.159
and something nine dollars because my father's
car was sitting in tow and we hadn't

584
00:45:55.199 --> 00:46:00.840
picked it up. When I called
Northwest to say how are you charging us?

585
00:46:00.039 --> 00:46:04.559
And we've been waiting on the police
to release the car, they tell

586
00:46:04.719 --> 00:46:08.039
us that the car was released the
same day. Within a couple of hours,

587
00:46:08.159 --> 00:46:13.280
they released the car. The police
have been telling us we couldn't get

588
00:46:13.280 --> 00:46:15.719
it because they quote with the process
in this car all this time, and

589
00:46:15.840 --> 00:46:20.400
then we find out Northwest was like, no, it was released that same

590
00:46:20.480 --> 00:46:23.760
morning, the couple of hours after
we brought it in, So that didn't

591
00:46:23.800 --> 00:46:29.119
make sense to us. So the
man at the owner of Northwest end up

592
00:46:29.119 --> 00:46:34.800
waving all the feed for us getting
the car code and because or he waved

593
00:46:34.880 --> 00:46:37.840
all the storage feeds and then we
paid I think it was maybe fifty dollars

594
00:46:37.960 --> 00:46:42.159
or something from the bring it to
my daughter's house in parkt in her yard,

595
00:46:42.840 --> 00:46:45.239
but he waved on because he thought
we just wasn't coming to get the

596
00:46:45.320 --> 00:46:50.480
car, not knowing all along the
police have been telling us, but they

597
00:46:50.519 --> 00:46:53.320
were processing the car. So it's
like all kinds of little stuff that just

598
00:46:53.440 --> 00:46:58.719
don't make sense, and why are
lying to us so much? And I

599
00:46:58.880 --> 00:47:02.760
just don't I don't have no answers
to none of it because nothing makes sense

600
00:47:02.920 --> 00:47:07.159
because I don't watch a lot of
crime shows and the police don't operate like

601
00:47:07.320 --> 00:47:12.320
that, you know, is like
they really are trying to solve stuff and

602
00:47:12.360 --> 00:47:15.880
they're taking up all the evidence they
can. But at this point we don't

603
00:47:15.000 --> 00:47:21.840
even know if they really really did
anything to check Dad's car out, because

604
00:47:22.440 --> 00:47:25.039
one police officer did tell us that
they couldn't find no fingerprints in my dad's

605
00:47:25.119 --> 00:47:30.559
car, And that doesn't make sense
because my dad's fingers should have been on

606
00:47:30.599 --> 00:47:34.679
the car. The woman's fingerprints should
have been in the car, my nephew

607
00:47:34.719 --> 00:47:37.920
who had just drove the car before
Daddy took the car and drove it,

608
00:47:38.400 --> 00:47:43.000
if she had fingerprints in the car, and they said my dad's car,

609
00:47:43.400 --> 00:47:46.519
there was no prints in his car, So what other thief wiped down a

610
00:47:46.599 --> 00:47:52.880
complete car? So just to confirm
the Moncy Police are still in charge of

611
00:47:52.960 --> 00:47:59.880
this investigation, is that correct?
Police? And when was the last time

612
00:48:00.000 --> 00:48:04.000
and that you tried to speak to
someone in the months he police department.

613
00:48:04.880 --> 00:48:07.920
I called him a couple of weeks
ago because yup, chiefs flown. He

614
00:48:07.039 --> 00:48:12.679
won't call me back. And then
I talked to him Peas Officer Peas or

615
00:48:12.760 --> 00:48:16.280
detective Peas or whatever she is.
Chiefly I talked to her maybe three months

616
00:48:16.320 --> 00:48:20.679
ago. She said the chief would
call me back. He didn't call me

617
00:48:20.760 --> 00:48:23.360
back. Then he didn't call me
back. Now they don't ever call you

618
00:48:23.480 --> 00:48:27.960
back too much. And then when
they'll do, they say they're still working

619
00:48:28.039 --> 00:48:30.639
on it. It's doing over the
case. And then they'll ask you if

620
00:48:30.800 --> 00:48:35.840
you know anything. When the state
police was trying to take over the case,

621
00:48:35.960 --> 00:48:38.760
that's what they did. They hadn't
talked to us, and they called

622
00:48:38.800 --> 00:48:45.519
me at work and asked me a
whole but a question about my dad and

623
00:48:45.639 --> 00:48:49.760
what we had her or anything like
that. And then they submitted add that

624
00:48:49.880 --> 00:48:54.400
information king the prosecutor, and the
prosecutor said, oh, well, they

625
00:48:54.480 --> 00:48:58.760
are working on it because they have
X Y and Z. Well, x

626
00:48:58.960 --> 00:49:01.639
Y and Z was the information and
I have gave him. So then they

627
00:49:01.719 --> 00:49:06.519
said they couldn't do wasn't going to
pass it on to the state police.

628
00:49:07.199 --> 00:49:09.679
Well, at this point four years
later. If you don't already have an

629
00:49:09.760 --> 00:49:15.119
attorney, your family may need to
hire one, not necessarily for any type

630
00:49:15.159 --> 00:49:21.320
of litigation, but maybe someone to
help you try to figure out what's going

631
00:49:21.440 --> 00:49:25.880
on, possibly get information from the
police apartment, that sort of thing.

632
00:49:27.400 --> 00:49:30.599
Well, every time we asked about
an attorney, they tell us that we

633
00:49:30.719 --> 00:49:37.000
don't have an actual person who they
asked us, like who are we trying

634
00:49:37.079 --> 00:49:42.159
to like sue, Like, we
don't have a specific person that we're trying

635
00:49:42.199 --> 00:49:45.559
to sue. I'll get with my
brother then, but yeah, he he

636
00:49:45.760 --> 00:49:51.119
knows all of all of that,
like he talks to all the attorneys and

637
00:49:51.159 --> 00:49:53.360
stuff he's been. We try to
hire a few, but we always get

638
00:49:53.599 --> 00:49:58.920
seemed like we get turned down where
everything like my dad's I'm looking at his

639
00:49:59.719 --> 00:50:02.840
TI then this shows like he has
old drugs and it's just a no alcohol.

640
00:50:04.480 --> 00:50:07.920
There's every negative and then they put
cause of death as black force trauma

641
00:50:08.039 --> 00:50:13.480
to the head. Now does your
family have a social media presence? I

642
00:50:13.559 --> 00:50:19.320
mean, do you use say TikTok
or Facebook or anything like that to draw

643
00:50:19.480 --> 00:50:23.840
attention to your father's case. We
have a Facebook page, but it doesn't

644
00:50:24.000 --> 00:50:29.360
draw too much a function. And
what's the name of the page. It's

645
00:50:29.519 --> 00:50:34.039
Justice for William vow For. It
is the group and it's only got it's

646
00:50:34.960 --> 00:50:37.760
my brother needs to play. Make
it unprivate because it looks like you got

647
00:50:37.840 --> 00:50:40.639
it as private, but it's Justice
for William vow For. Yeah, you

648
00:50:40.719 --> 00:50:45.599
need to make it not private so
everybody can see it. Yeah, okay,

649
00:50:46.119 --> 00:50:50.880
And then what you do is instead
of you don't have to just people

650
00:50:50.960 --> 00:50:52.119
go, well, I don't have
a lot of information to put. Well,

651
00:50:52.800 --> 00:50:57.400
not only do you put information about
your dad asking for tips, and

652
00:50:58.039 --> 00:51:02.239
you know, stories about your dad, you can also put other homicides from

653
00:51:02.320 --> 00:51:07.719
your area and put those stories on
there too, Okay, So add fresh

654
00:51:07.880 --> 00:51:14.719
content or other homicides in other cases, unsolved cases in Muncy or even in

655
00:51:14.840 --> 00:51:19.000
Indiana, you know, and then
that will bring people coming back to your

656
00:51:19.039 --> 00:51:22.239
page because you'll have new content every
day. So you put stories on it.

657
00:51:22.480 --> 00:51:25.239
You and your brother both put stories
on it every day. And then

658
00:51:25.280 --> 00:51:30.360
of course you guys add stuff about
your dad and there maybe once or twice

659
00:51:30.360 --> 00:51:32.800
a week, say hey, anybody
got any information you know, send me

660
00:51:34.000 --> 00:51:36.800
turn us a tip if you know
anything. Somebody out there knows something,

661
00:51:36.920 --> 00:51:40.039
so please help us. You know
that kind of thing. Okay, and

662
00:51:40.119 --> 00:51:45.400
invite people. Invite everybody on your
Facebook page, his Facebook page, random

663
00:51:45.440 --> 00:51:49.679
people. Just let people just come
and check it out. People. Okay,

664
00:51:50.000 --> 00:51:52.440
I'll tell him. I call him
tonight and tell him that. And

665
00:51:52.519 --> 00:51:54.199
that man's name was Wayne With.
Look, I have to go pull my

666
00:51:54.280 --> 00:51:58.559
photo out and it's Wayne With.
It is the ones you went to a

667
00:51:58.679 --> 00:52:04.199
house and took the shower and then
Ricky Hughes with the gentleman that she was

668
00:52:04.400 --> 00:52:07.920
left her phone at his house and
hadn't answering it. Yeah, I'm just

669
00:52:08.280 --> 00:52:12.920
trying to jump through some of these
emails and stuff because I got a binder

670
00:52:13.039 --> 00:52:16.119
just so full of stuff. And
we also we had made flyers and put

671
00:52:16.159 --> 00:52:22.360
out in the community when it happened
and stuff, and the police was telling

672
00:52:22.440 --> 00:52:24.639
people. We had a couple of
people tell us the police told them that

673
00:52:24.840 --> 00:52:29.519
wasn't them, that it was the
family. Like we put on their wanted

674
00:52:30.119 --> 00:52:34.960
wanted if you see police notify the
month the police department, and we had

675
00:52:35.000 --> 00:52:37.360
put a picture of her. We
put a picture of my father's car that

676
00:52:37.599 --> 00:52:40.280
it happened, you know, he
had left in and a picture of my

677
00:52:40.400 --> 00:52:45.280
dad and we posted them around town
and we were told by certain different people

678
00:52:45.440 --> 00:52:49.760
that would they ask the police about
the flyer. The police was like,

679
00:52:49.840 --> 00:52:53.280
oh, that's not us, that's
the family that's doing that. Why would

680
00:52:53.320 --> 00:52:58.239
you play it down like that?
You know, they would like, well,

681
00:52:58.360 --> 00:53:00.599
ever, anything he was trying to
get help, it seemed like they

682
00:53:00.719 --> 00:53:05.760
just didn't care. I mean,
because a lot of people call you and

683
00:53:05.840 --> 00:53:08.239
you tell them, oh, it's
not job. You should they should have

684
00:53:08.239 --> 00:53:12.599
been like, yeah, do you
have any information? All right? So

685
00:53:12.800 --> 00:53:16.119
this has been hard. Well,
it sounds like your father was really a

686
00:53:16.280 --> 00:53:21.480
great person, a great dad,
a great friend, a great grandfather,

687
00:53:22.360 --> 00:53:28.159
just a really wonderful person. And
I'm sorry that you've had such a difficult

688
00:53:28.280 --> 00:53:32.119
time getting answers about what happened to
him. I mean, it's been four

689
00:53:32.239 --> 00:53:37.480
years, and that probably seems like
an eternity to go so long without knowing

690
00:53:37.559 --> 00:53:45.360
anything. But I just wanted to
command you and your family for keep on

691
00:53:45.639 --> 00:53:49.920
keeping on about finding out what happened
to your father that night. And I

692
00:53:50.039 --> 00:53:55.400
hope that you all don't give up
and that you continue to pursue answers because

693
00:53:55.440 --> 00:54:00.000
it sounds to me like your dad
deserves justice because he was a good man

694
00:54:00.800 --> 00:54:06.079
who looked out for his family.
And with that being said, the last

695
00:54:06.239 --> 00:54:10.360
question that I would have for you
is for anyone out there that's listening to

696
00:54:10.519 --> 00:54:16.519
this podcast, if they know anything
about what happened to your dad, what

697
00:54:16.599 --> 00:54:22.400
would you say to that person or
persons if you could speak to them,

698
00:54:22.119 --> 00:54:29.880
If you have any information of anything
about anything that can help solve my father's

699
00:54:30.000 --> 00:54:36.079
murder, we would really appreciate you
come forward, contact them, Muncy Police

700
00:54:36.400 --> 00:54:39.880
or even even the state police.
If you could contact them or any of

701
00:54:39.920 --> 00:54:45.360
our family members, we would appreciate
it. My father did not deserve what

702
00:54:45.519 --> 00:54:50.559
happened to him, and I really
would like justice and for being killed.

703
00:54:51.039 --> 00:54:55.840
You know, he had left behind
grandkids and great grandkids and we missed him

704
00:54:55.920 --> 00:55:01.480
and we want justice. It's not
right. And that concludes the story of

705
00:55:01.599 --> 00:55:07.079
William Balfour Senior. If you haven't
listened to the first half, please go

706
00:55:07.199 --> 00:55:13.599
back and listen to that episode.
William was a retired grandfather. After he

707
00:55:13.760 --> 00:55:19.639
retired, family was his number one
priority. Without him, his family feels

708
00:55:19.760 --> 00:55:25.000
lost. Even worse, his killer
remains at large. Who killed William Balfour

709
00:55:25.119 --> 00:55:31.400
Senior on July two, twenty nineteen. Someone out there knows, perhaps you

710
00:55:31.519 --> 00:55:37.119
know. The family is pleading for
your help. How would you feel if

711
00:55:37.159 --> 00:55:42.320
William or your grandfather when you want
him to receive justice. If you have

712
00:55:42.440 --> 00:55:47.159
a valuable tip, you can contact
once He crime Stoppers at seven six five

713
00:55:47.679 --> 00:55:53.639
two eight six four zero five zero. I will also provide this information in

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00:55:53.719 --> 00:56:00.360
the case story notes. And if
you are apparent law enforcement of Ischel,

715
00:56:00.920 --> 00:56:06.639
friend or relative seeking justice for an
unsolved thomicide case, please visit my website

716
00:56:07.400 --> 00:56:09.880
and complete the contact form. Thank
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