Episode 186: Cory "Stretch" Schroeder

0:14 Hello, and welcome to the Catch My Killer Podcast. Thank you for listening. My name is Mark. For nearly eight years, I've written a weekly newspaper column about true crimes and missing people for the Claremont Sun newspaper in Ohio. With the column and podcast, it has always been my objective to bring attention to cases that have not received much media attention, if any. This week's story involves a box sighted, Arkansas man named Corey Schrader, also known as Stretch, who vanished on Friday, May twenty first, twenty nineteen. He was last seen by a friend who dropped Corey off at a store after Corey had called him and asked for a ride. The friends said that after he dropped Corey off, he never saw him again, and neither has anyone else. Corey has been missing for over four years and his family in the Saline Sheriff's apartment need the public's assistance and finding him. Cory Schrader, also affectionately known as Stretch, was a box side, Arkansas man who vanished on Friday May twenty first, twenty nineteen, just a day short of his forty fifth birthday. Corey Schrader was born on May twenty second, nineteen seventy four

1:45 and Mosston, Wisconsin. He has a younger sister named Cherish Schrader. After their mother became vice president of a technical college, that job would take the Schraders to Arkansas, where they would eventually settle. Corey and his sister grew up in the eighties and were best friends as children. They played games, enjoyed throwing the football to each other, and rode their bicycles into the late hours of the night. They would stay out until the street lights came on, which was common for children growing up in the eighties. As children, Corey was always taller than everyone else. He was six foot eight and weighed over two hundred pounds. He had a high IQ and did well in school.

2:27 However, his sister said that Corey was bored of school. He would drop out of school, complete his ged and then attend a technical school to learn computer skills. Cherish had said that although Corey had a great childhood, in home life, he began hanging out with a bad crowd. Corey then engaged in criminal behavior, which led him to a prison sentence. His sister said that while in prison, Corey did stay out of trouble and never lost any of his privileges. He received his commissary was able to visit with his family without any disruptions. After leaving prison, Corey struggled with finding work since it can be difficult to find a job when you have a felony, but he remained positive and did not want to return to prison. He focused on working and spending time with his handicapped daughter. Cherish said that he loved his daughter and committed his life to being a supportive father. According to media sources, Corey was last seeing wearing a sweatshirt with a hood and carrying a black and red backpack. This was the last time that Corey was officially seen by anyone. After Corey failed to show up to celebrate his birthday with his family, they all became concerned because they knew that he would have never missed his birthday. Cherrish began reaching out to Corey's acquaintances looking for him. His disappearance was also reported to law enforcement. While looking for her brother, Cherrish met with someone who claimed to have information about her brother. The person who spoke

4:01 to Cherish said that her brother had been shot in the back of the head and his body was then dumped somewhere, but she didn't know where. Although Cherish was able to convince the young woman to speak to law enforcement, she was too terrified to write down her account of what happened to Corey. Today, Cherish spends time speaking to people who knew her brother had taken to social media to try and locate her brother's body. She is convinced that someone has murdered him because she knows that he would never walk away from his daughter or his family. For now, she just wants to recover his body so that he can receive a proper burial and the family can grieve over the loss.

4:42 And now on with Corey Schrader's story, as told by his younger sister, Cherish Schrader. We're in Arkansas now, but we are actually from Wisconsin. My brother and I and my parents on both sides were originally from Wisconsin. We were both born in Moston, was on a little bitty town southeast of Madison, which is the capital of Wisconsin. So we lived there until I guess I was about four and would have made my brothers six, And then we moved to Kansas. My parents just wanting to expand, you know, small town Wisconsin. You're not going to do much with yourself unless you leave this small town. So then, wanting a better life pressed kids and for themselves, they were like, we've got to get out of small town Wisconsin.

5:27 We were in Kansas for about ten years and then my mom's job transferred her to Little Rock, Arkansas, and that's how we ended up in Arkansas. But my brothers a little over two years older than I am, so you know, siblings that are that close together like cats and dogs, but you're also each other's protectors and things like that. You know, yes, absolutely best friends. We went kitching all the time and play games together, played football and the yard. A lot of our best friends were each other's best friends too, you know, playing and growing up riding bicycles together all the time, and we were those latch key kids. So as soon as we got to school, hopped on our bicycles and wrote bicycles and stuff and played with neighborhood kids together until the street light came on and typical eighties growing up. Yep, Absolutely, me and my brothers same thing. We throwed our bikes around everywhere, and this was probably back in say nineteen eighty one to nineteen eighty three during the summers when we were out of school. Good times. Yeah, yeah, I remember back then the rule was come home when the street lights come on. I think that was pretty typical back in those days. Yeah, yep, and when the street guys came on yet, as long as the house was cleaning room and dad got home. So we ended up in Arkansas, and I guess it was December of eighty nine January of ninety. My mom was vice president of a technical college and they transferred her down here to Arkansas. And then Arkansas. I really wasn't we

7:00 were Yankees. I guess you could say that's how everybody thought we were. Anyway, we came from up north and we'd come down here to the South, and everybody thought we were different. So it was quite the adjustment moving down here. My brother, he's six foot eight, so he's always a lot taller than everybody else, and he was different. He was very intelligent. He had like a one sixty four IQ, so school board him to tears and he challenged his teachers as well. He ended up dropping out in like the tenth grade, got his GD got a scholarship from his GD because he scored so high on the test, and then from that scholarship that he got from his gud, he went to technical school for some kind of computer technology something that was beyond my stuff. I'm a CPA. I just do numbers. I'm a new chowner, so I don't get all that technical computer stuff. So he went to some kind of technical school thing or something like that. But his passing was feahing. He loved to fish and he was good at it too. But yeah, his passion was fishing. But he did get into a little bit of trouble. I guess it was ninety five.

8:05 He got in with their own crowd, got into a little bit of trouble. I think his charges were stealing or deft by receiving or something. So he did go to prison for I think seven years, from ninety five till I think, oh three, he got out. Now it was two thousand and two because my first son had got to and he got after my first was born. Okay, let me ask you real quick, when was Corey mourn When was his birthday? Twenty two of seventy four? And was Corey your only brother? Yes? So it was just you and Corey. Yep, just the two of us. Okay, I just wanted to clarify that, and now tell me about what was it like for him getting back to having a regular life after he was released from prison. Was he able to stay out of trouble after he got out. He stayed out of trouble for the most part. Then, of course, you getting a when you have a record of hard society browns upon people that have records and stuff like that. But my dad has his own sad like the business. So he went to work for my dad a little bit here and there, found a girlfriend and ended up getting married. I don't know what year it was that he got married, though, and he finally had his first biological daughter, you know. Six. He has a step daughter as well, who's from his wife, but he has a first biological daughter. And when she was about eight months old, she got to bork your meningitis. Come to find

9:35 out, he was the one that had tuberculosis. They said that they could have got it off of a shopping cart or in an elevator or whatever. So she got really sick in oh six or seven, So she's severely handicapped. The tuberculosis or the meningitis eight like seventy three percent of her brain. She still at the today. She didn't die or anything like that, but he took that really hard. He felt like it was his fault that she got sick. So he spiraled a little bit after that because she was severely disabled, and I guess he could say mental and emotional health kind of spiral. He was diagnosed with some mild schizophrenia, which does run on my dad's side of the family. His mother was in and out of mental institutions for a while, So he did struggle a little bit here and there because of that, but other than that, he did the best he could within in the parts that he was guilt, but he held a lot of guilt, and I think he tried to self medicate to numb himself from those kinds of things. Now, you just said that his mother had mental issues. Do both of you have the same mother or you have someones? Now it was my dad's mother, so our grandmother, I'm sorry, our grandmother. All my dad by was in and out of mental institutions her entire life, which schizophrenia and I don't even know. The list was so long. So we believed that he got a touch of it ritarially or something like that they say schizophrenia, camera and families and stuff like that, and it wasn't like he

11:07 heard voices, but he would always tell us that in his head it sounded like he was in a loud room all the time. And of course Soccer's always wanted to put him on medication and stuff like that, and he said the medication made him feel numb or like a zombie, you know, like he couldn't enjoy the highs of life you're supposed to have or the rows you're supposed to have. So he didn't like taking the medication. So I could understand that. And then with the issue with his daughter, and I think he tried to self medicate sometimes and he got into a little bit of drugs and things like that and got hanging around with the bad crowd again, which brings up I think how he disappeared. He was at the wrong place in the wrong term, didn't realize who was there. Now take me up until when Corey disappeared. So I want to ask you some questions about what I've seen in the media, and I want you to tell me if their account is correct or not. So what I saw was that a friend claimed to have taken Corey to a store and dropped him off on May twenty first, twenty nineteen, and then once he got to the store, that was the last time anyone has officially seen Corey. Is that a correct assessment of what happened to him? Or did the media get it wrong anywhere? Yeah?

12:28 Right, he was at our house. Okay, So he and I were both divorced. Coincidentally enough, he and I both ended up getting a divorced in two thousand and eleven, so we ended up back at my mom and dads temporarily trying to get back established and back on our feet in our own right. So we were both living with our mom and dad at that time. And so he came in my room and he was like, oh, Sis, this, that and the other. I said, Bobba, you just need to go live down. We're picking nap to set the other. He was seven, a hard time. I had just taken my kids to school and stuff in so I guess he messaged one of his friends and said, hey, come pick me up. I just needed to numb the pain. And so his friend came and picked him up from the house. And this was on May twentieth of twenty nineteen and I took a nap. I was off work that day. I had taken a nap, and he had previously been working for the ministry. That's just a sidebar, but anyway, So the friend came and picked him up, and when I woke up, he was gone, and I was like, Okay, well where's he at?

13:26 And well he wasn't answering the phone or anything like that. How that's weird, weird, but not weird. He's been known to not answer to the phone for a few hours, but not beas on end. He would always eventually text me back, Sis, I'm fine. So I wake up the next day and he's not home. Mary. He's not answering any texts. So I start reaching out to people saying, as anybodying my brother or anything like that. While I got ahold of the friend that picked him up, I was like, Hey, where's my brother. He's like, I picked him up at your house at this time, and I dropped him off at the store. So that's where that leave becomes from. He's like, I dropped him off at Huckabee's. Huckabee's is a little grossery store gas station, said, I dropped him off here. And I was like, that's odd, but okay, And so I continued hunting for him, and that was on the twenty first. He dropped him off was on the twenty first for his birthday on the twenty seconds. So when he didn't show up or hadn't been returning bone calls or texts saying sis, I'm fine, and didn't show up for his cake and ice cream and his birthday, I knew red flag because he never misses his birthday. So I said, something's going on.

14:35 So then I started digging into all the dark corners of the world that I, as a single female, had no business going. But I was going to find my brother. I knew something was wrong, whether it was he was doing things he shouldn't have been doing, I eat drugs, or he just needed to be found. So I started calling people I had no business calling in, driving around places I had no business driving around, but I knew I need to find my brother. Something wasn't right. He missed his birthday, something was wrong, and I couldn't find him anywhere. I couldn't get straight answers from anybody. So I finally filed a missing person's report, and that was on Wednesday. His birthday was on a Wednesday that year, and so by Friday. I don't know if you're a spiritual person or not, but I am. And God had told me that Friday that week, I have your brother. He told me. He said, your brothers with me. And then I just knew, because God had already told me I got your brother. And of course I wasn't going to tell mom, bet or anything like that, but I just woke up that Friday morning with just this gut renting treeling because God had told me. So. Your instincts, as Corey's sister, have told you that your brother is no longer alive.

15:48 That's how you feel right now. Yes, yes, And that was four days that or I had last seen him. After sheriff told me that she was convinced that her brother was no longer alive, she became focused on recovering his body. Cherish has received a tip from a woman with knowledge about her brother's fate. The woman told Cherish that Corey was deceased and that his killer had shot him in the back of the head. We will take a short break and return with the disturbing details of the tip that Cherish received from an informant about Corey's final moments alive. Now, what about today, do you still believe that your brother is deceased or is there still a small glimmer of hope that he's still alive. No, I still believe today that he is in Heaven with Jesus. Yep, yep. And I had to put this out there in the public. I don't want to say any speculative information, but there's a lot of things that have come out, but through my own investigation and some people that have come talk to me saying that they've talked The street talks. You know what I'm saying. You know this, but

17:21 the street does not talk to the cops, but they'll talk to other people on the street. And the people that were there when it happened, or people that have talked to the people that were there when it happened, have said that he showed up, delivered a message something about somebody's girlfriend. He made a comment about some girls bottom for backside looking good. The boyfriend didn't take kindly to it. So the boyfriend shot my brother in the back of the head, and then he enlisted his friends to help cover it up. And the guy that did the murder is of Ariyan brotherhood, and so that's why no one is willing to talk is because they're scared to death of all these gang members and what will happen to them if they put their name on paper and testify against this guy. So, now that you've heard rumors about your brother being shot to death, what do you think about these rumors?

18:17 Are they just rumors or do you think that this is factual information that you have received? What's your opinion. I believe it to be legit. I've heard it from people on that side of the street, you know what I'm saying, from those dark corners of the world, from people that were there when it happened. There was one individual that actually put my brother's body in the back of his car and has said his blood is still in the back of my care And the person that he was telling this two came straight to my house after and was like, charrish, I've been sitting on this for two weeks and it's eaten me up and blah blah blah blah blah, but sell. And so two weeks ago I was riding around with him and for some reason, out of just you know, for whatever reason, he needed to get off his chest. He told me this, this, and this, But the only thing he didn't tell me is where they put your brother.

19:12 He told me, this is how it happened. This is what happened. This is why it happened. And then they put your brother in the back of this car, and she herself saw the blood in the back of the car. And then I said, you have to tell the detectives. Where she went and told the detectives, and then when the detectives said put it on paper, she balked and she said, nope, I'm not going to do it. She verbally reported it to the detectives, but when they said write the statement, she said nope. So the girl that you're telling me about, was she an actual witness. She's a witness to a confession. Somebody that took part in the cover up confessed to her. Okay, got it, and that was there when it happened, had confessed to her, and she saw the blood and back of the vehicle. Had confessed to her, and she told me, and I convinced her to tell one of the detectives that she trust because she has a storied past two but she's always been credible, but when it came time to make a written statement, she wouldn't do it. There's been a handful of people that they've questioned, Like I think the detective told me at one time, they've questioned over seventy people in this case, and they've gotten bits and pieces, and he's told me, he said, Cherish, this is going to be a marathon, not a sprint. And I think that there's more they could do. I've asked them to bring the FBI in, but they won't do it. Why is that, Well, I don't know if you know much about Seling County,

20:44 Arkansas, not much. I don't think I've really heard that much about that county specifically. You should do some research on Sling County, Arkansas. And the Boys on the Tracks. Oh right, right, the Boys on the Track. I'm familiar with that story. That was a long time ago, but I do remember it. The Boys on the Tracks. Back in nineteen eighty seven, there is these two boys from Bryant, Arkansas, which is just blocks away from where I met. As the story goes, they were just in the wrong place at the wrong time yet again, but they accidentally seen a pretty heavy drug deal going down. But they saw some things that shouldn't have seen and so they were murdered. And if I recall, their deaths were rules and accident, but the locals don't believe that. The locals believe that the boys were actually killed by someone. Their deaths were ruled well an accident or suicide that they basically got so high on marijuana that they lay down on the railroad tracks and fell asleep. Yeah, and that's definitely not believable. I've been on many many railroad tracks. I grew up near railroad tracks that used to walk them all the time. There's no way that you're falling asleep on them and not hearing a train coming. Those trains are very loud. Yeah, how do you follows sleep on a railroad track and not hear a train coming? And you don't get that high on weet that you don't hear a train coming. So, yeah, there's some corruption in Saline County. I don't think it's as bad now is what it used to be back and say the late eighties, early nineties. And the gentleman that they

22:18 say is a person of interest or the gentleman that committed this murder, like I say, he's airing Brotherhood, and they have used him before for federal trafficking to try to get some of these higher ups, some bigger fish, I guess. So you think this guy may have worked as an informant. I think so. But they keep shoving him back to prison. Every time he gets a gun charge or something like that. They're seving back to prison for six or eight months. Maybe gets back out and he screws up again, and they sending back to federal prison. But they keep letting him out again, but he keeps getting away with everything. But they can't prosecute a murder case without a body, and they can't find my brother's body because nobody will say where they buried him, or what they did with his remains or anything like that. And there's some pretty gory details on what supposedly they did to him afterwards, their stories about a wood kipper, and I don't even want to entertain that one, but it's possible when you start talking about Arie and Brotherhood and what they're willing to do to cover up their crimes. It's just a matter of my brother being at the wrong place at the wrong time, and he said the wrong thing to the wrong person. He had no idea who he was talking to or who was dealing with. He was just hanging out. So let me ask you where was Corey when he was supposedly killed? I mean, was he at a party? Was he out in the woods? Where exactly was he at? Allegedly now at he was at

23:55 this guy's house. But yeah, they call him ugly Mike or something like that. Bingley. He was at a guy's house and there was probably a good twelve or sixteen twenty people there, and they were all party in and in doing the various things, and a couple of people, you know, there's a guy that dropped him off, and dropped a couple of people off, I guess, and they were hanging out doing their thing. And somebody else has since come forward and said, hey, Cheris, I didn't know that this was going to cause this. But when your brother left my house, I told him, I said, hey, if you see so and So, tell her the only person's booty that looks better than hers is dada, dadada. So when my brother delivered that message, it was supposed to be funny, but apparently the boyfriend didn't take it too kindly and it caused my brother to get to you, so, where did this guy allegedly kill your brother. Was it in front of witnesses or was it done out in the field. It sounds like he just shot him right there and didn't worry about if there were any witnesses. Based on what you just said, yes, apparently it was probably like thirty minutes later. I'm guessing here, I'm just activating, guessing that he'd probably sit there and feeled about it. This guy has a history of being very jealous, extremely jealous, And from what I was told is he told somebody, go next door and get your mom's gun, and so he sent the guy next door, or I think two houses down, and one gentleman went two houses down, got his mom's gun, came back with it, handed it to the guy. And I think when my brother got up to go smoke a cigarette or something like that is

25:26 when he sought him in the back of the head. Brother's a very big man, but he's not violent at all. Everybody called him the gentle giant. Children loves my brother. My brother loves children. I mean, kids just flock to him. If anybody needed a babysitter, they called my brothers. He was not a violent man at all, but because of his stature. I mean, he was six foot eight and two thirty five and the guy that killed him is not The guy that killed him is only like five six and maybe one forty five. That's probably why you're there. Was shot in the back of the head because he wasn't looking exactly exactly it was it was, you know, And like I said, he's a very jealous person from everybody telling about him, and he's very jealous, has extreme anger issues.

26:15 He joined a gang in prison is because he needed the protection. I think that's pretty standard for people when they go to prison. Yeah. Yeah, Well, from what I understand, for people that are going to prison for any length of time, possibly for life, or if they have some other type of long sentence, it's probably safest for them to join a gang, whether it be the Aryan Brotherhood or I guess whatever gang based on your ethnicity, joining the appropriate gang is probably done for safety reasons. And believe it or not, yes, my brother did end a few years in prison, but he was always in the non violent unit and he was always on a committee of some sort because he stayed out of trouble when he was in prison. He stayed out of trouble. He always had all his commissary, he had all his free time. We were always able to visit him every weekend. It was because he stayed out of trouble and he kept his nose clean. He didn't want to be there, he wanted to come home.

27:15 So he had no game affiliation whatsoever when he was in there. And that's one thing that the detectives kept asking me to add. They're like, he doesn't have any affiliation. I was like, no, sir, none whatsoever. No, he has no game tattoos or anything else. No, sir, no whatsoever. So, based on what you're telling me about your brother, it sounds like he probably was killed in the spur of the moment. It doesn't sound like something that was planned, right. It sounds like someone just got angry at your brother and just killed him allegedly yep, yep. And then you have witnesses who saw what happened, dear brother, or people that know about it, but none of them will see anything to enforcement.

28:00 And you know what that's common because I've spoken to other people who are in the same situation as you're in, and they've also told me about witnesses or people that have information, but they will never speak to the police about it. Therefore, the police can't arrest anyone if they don't have any witnesses that will come forward. But then I understand because they may be fearful. I mean, if this person's going to kill someone, then if I talk, what's the stop them from doing the same thing? To me, that's the mentality, So they're in survival mode. Unfortunately, that is detrimental to the family because the family wants to see justice. In some situations, even the family can't get anyone to say anything, much less the police. You know, we'll settle for just finding my brother or so we can bring him home and give him proper peace resting place so we can mourn him, and then we'll get the justice after that. But yeah, so we can have a place to go and mourn him, rather it be on his birthday or the anniversary of which sat at the anniversary that he went missing or was murdered, just very close to his birthday, but you know, things like that, so we can properly mourn and put him to risk. But meeting as spiritually connected as I am, I know God's going to have his justice and it is eternal and it is far worse than anything that this earthly law can give

29:33 us. But yeah, during my research about Corey's case, I looked at his Facebook page and found a disturbing message. There's a post on his page from May twentieth, twenty nineteen, the day before he disappeared, stating going to be leaving Facebook in a few days going on new adventure. I asked Cherish what she thought of the post. We'll take a final and listened to her discuss the strange post in her mission to find out what happened to her beloved brother. So, I was looking at Corey's Facebook page and I noticed a really strange post. It was the last one on his page. It said, I'm going to be going on an adventure, so I'm going to be gone for a while. Can you tell me about that post? Do you even think it was him? I'm not even sure if that was him.

30:37 I think that was his girlfriend at the time. Yeah, they were fighting and stuff like that, and she had all his passwords. So I had to get the passwords from her to find out, you know, Like I said, I had to start looking for him that next day, and that's how I found out I was like, give me his password so I can look at his messages and see who picked him up or where he went. And I logged in. I got sorts from her to start finding him, and she was somewhat helpful at first, Like I said, she gave me his passwords. That after about the first month or so, she just moved on. So then you think that a former girlfriend may have put that on there maybe, and I'm speculating. Yeah, I find it kind of odd that it was posted on May twentieth, the day before he disappeared.

31:22 Yeah, they were fighting and he called mom and said, my truck's breaking down, and can you and Dad come up here and get me. He was with her in Tabot, which is like probably an hour away from where we are, maybe forty five minutes an hour. He said, the truck's acting funny. Can you and Dad picked me up and tow the truck home? And so they towed the truck back to what was our house at the time and brought him home and parked the truck and things like that. He was going through some stuff at the time that he disappeared, which leads to him calling his buddy saying I just needed to mum, the pain, and so he was just he was going through some stuff. I think it led him to a where he didn't have any business being in the first place, and being around people that were unsavory for lack of a better term. So yeah, it's a bad deal all the way around. But we just want to bring him home in a proper resting base and bring my family some kind of closure, whatever that closure may be, and then justice. Yeah.

32:23 So tell me about what the media has stated about your brother based on everything that you've seen out there, as the media gotten anything wrong about your brother. Well, originally the ACIC, which I'm sure you're familiar with, had his height and weight wrong. They had his height at six foot two and his weight at one hundred and forty five pounds. I said, you've got to be kidding me, and they had it. We're at in the first sixth month. But one of his flyers I'm looking at now says the friend dropped him off at the store. Well, no, he made it out to Cottonwood and well it's not it's just it's a little bit misconstrued. Where the circumstances our Corey was last sing when a friend dropped him off at a store, and then where it says it was learned by a family that he was around the Cottonwood area, so that could be a little confusing or could be misconstrued. And where it says though that he had his red and black backpack. That needs to be updated about. Okay, he disappeared in May.

33:27 On January first of twenty twenty, another friend or former classmate of hours showed up at my house with that red and black backpack fresh and it had just been clean fresh, looked brand new almost And he showed up. He's like, hey, Corey gave this to me the month before he disappeared. And I'm like, oh, you're lying. I know you're lying, because he walked out the door with it. He left with it. I know he did because it was sitting on the fourier table that morning. The morning before he left, it was sitting on the fourier table and was not here whenever he after he disappeared. So he did not give it to you a month before he disappeared, So I don't know where you got it from.

34:09 But so I don't know. I don't know where that gentleman got it from. But he returned it to us, you know, fresh clean, like it had just been to the dry cleaners or something. Was it actually his backpack? Yes, yes, it was his backpack because it had the same carrors and the same little freight ends and things like that. So it absolutely was my brother's backpack. And I called the detectives. I told him, I said, I told him the same thing, and they were like, because they wanted to test it for DNA and different things like that. I said, it's not going to do you any good. It's been cleaned, I said, but I'll bring it down there to you if you want it. But it's been cleaned. I said. It looks almost brand new. So I don't know how he got it, but yeah, there's probably a reason why someone cleaned it. Yeah. Absolutely, he took his laptop with him and it's disappeared. I don't know where it disappeared too, in the scheme of all things, I'm sure it's destroyed or at the bottom of some dumpster somewhere or something at this point. But yeah, it's a mess.

35:08 It's just a mess. It's sad that there's so many people involved and that know what happened. There's not a single one that's willing to say or do something that's not tormented by it. Unfortunately, I think in a lot of cases there's witnesses out there who know something, but they just refuse to say anything. Just imagine if half of every witness to a crime spoke up, Imagine how many cases could get solved. Yeah, yeah, I mean, I do understand a lot of people either don't want to get involved, or they may fear for their own life. But at the same time, if you have information that can put this guy away for life, there's wit pro there's always witness protection. So I don't know, right, But then you go back to people not wanting to get involved. I mean, who wants to go on a witness protection Who wants to get moved around to different states and not be allowed to contact their families anymore. There's actually a lot to that, but I think that a lot of people they just don't want to get involved. And I hate to say that, but it's true, right right when some of these people are doing time. Right now, there's one individual that's serving a twenty year sentence for drug charges in dely recharges and stuff like that, and they're hoping that eventually they'll get sick and tired or serving

36:39 time and decide to say something. At some point, there's another guy that actually he's terminally you, and they're hoping that he'll decide to make a deathbed confession of some sort, because what's you got to lose at that point, you know. So Yeah, now, have you personally spoken to either of these guys that you just mentioned. No, I've been advised to stay away, and it's probably safer. I have two sons myself. They're adults now, but still, you know, so, at the same time, I do think logically, and if somebody decides that I'm getting too close, they may decide to come after me as well. That's definitely a real concern.

37:21 Yeah. I have been advised to let the law do what they're going to do or what have you. So I've got a few friends in low places too, and I've decided to let them risk their skinning back. If that's what they choose to do, it's probably best that you stay out of it. Yeah. Yeah, they're like no, yeah, they're like cherished. No. Well, I think you're doing your part by just keeping the story out there, talking to people and making sure that nobody forgets about your brother. Yeah, I'm working with the Morgan Nick Foundation and law enforcement to the best of my abilities, and just keeping his name base after to the best of my abilities, and working with people like you to keep his name and face out there. You never know him. Maybe when this gets out there, maybe some of these people will hear it, and these super sleuths on the internet may get a phone call or an email or something, and maybe it'll lead to something. That's really all you can hope for. Yeah.

38:22 Have you spoken to law enforcement lately about the case? Oh? No, And that's another pain in my croft. Now. I will say that the first detective I thought he was just good and great, and come to find out he was a dirty cut I shouldn't know. He was too good to be true. But yeah, so he's off the force now. Actually, I don't think he was doing anything nefarious with my brother's case. I don't think. But yeah, the first detective I had, I thought he was I thought it was golden, but I didn't even know that he wasn't with the force anymore. And I kept leaving the messages and leading messages, leading the messages, and then I got talking to the reception them at the Sheriff's department, and she was like, he's no longer with us. I was like, how long has he be going and she was like two months.

39:06 I said, that explains why he's not returning my calls. Whoever they handed the case off to should have at least called me and said, hey, here's what's happening. Somebody should be keeping me abreast of what's going on down there instead of me leaving this. You know, somebody's saying his voice mails. So yeah, I've got a new detective now, and he's been much better about just saying, hey, there's nothing going on, or there is something going on, or here's what we've done so far. So once he took over the case, he has been doing some searches and things like that, some different places that he's taking the dogs out and search. Rumor has it was that he was buried out behind a cemetery in the area that nobody has named the actual cemetery. So it's like when somebody pops in and says, I heard it was this cemetery. He's taking the dogs out and search that cemetery. But it's hit or miss. I get phone calls and messages all the time. Like, hey chairs, I heard this, Hey chairs, da da da da in Every time I do, I report it and he sometimes is just like, are you sure he didn't just take off?

40:07 And I'm like telling you that my brother would not do that. He has a daughter that's disabled. He would not leave her. No matter what you thought he was doing, he would not leave his daughter. He was her caregiver. He just wouldn't do that, no matter what was going through his head. He always cleaned himself up when it was his time to take care of her. He never let his daughter down. That's the one thing that was golden about my brothers. No matter what was going on in his head, when it was time for him to step up for her, he was there for her. So he was really devoted to his daughter. Then, absolutely absolutely. And what's the name of the local police department that's handling your brother's case. So if anybody out there listening wants to contact law enforcement, who would they need to contact the Seline County Sheriff's Department. Okay, and let me ask you about social media. Are you using Facebook? TikTok?

41:08 Yes, I'm not a TikTok or I'm not an Instagram or I'm not a Twitter user or anything like that, so Facebook is all I have been using. And then every once in a while, our local news stations will do a blurt I guess as you would call it or whatever they would, you know, be like hey, And then actually, the Morgan Nick Foundation is a local foundation here and they put stuff out. Now, they may be using those other avenues as far as like Instagram and things like that, and then of course he's on like Charlie Project and Gina for one one name us and yeah, they may be using those other outlets, but I only use Facebook. And what's the name of the Facebook page dedicated to Corey's case?

42:00 It's Corey Schrader. Have you seen me? Corey Schrader dot dot dot? Have you seen me? With three question marks? And let's see, your brother's been gone for four years. Tell me what is it that you missed the most about him? His sense of humor, It didn't matter what you were depressed, that if you were crying your eyes out, he could lift you out of that. His sense of humor, and the bump he had with my boys. I can actually hear it in your voice how much you miss him? Yeah, I miss him? So much. I will share this story with you. One of my oldest son was about thirteen months old. He had to have tubes in his ears, and it was his first surgery or first major anything for me as a mom, you know, and for of course my child and my brother was there for that. And whenever my son woke up from that surgery, of course, as a mom, I wanted to go straight to my son. One of my son to want his mommy. No, he wanted his own stretch, Yes, uncle stretch.

43:04 My son did not want his mommy. He wanted his uncle stretch. And of course he stepped right up and grabbed my son and held him, and everything was right the world as far as my son was concerned, because he had his own stretch. And that made my brother's day and that would everything. And that's how tight they were. And my son cries every day because his uncle's not here. We all do because he's not here. Or he sounds like a pretty good guy and a great uncle. Yeah yeah. And then of course there's that famous saying about only the good die young. Yep, yep, and I really believe that to be true. Yea.

43:45 And the last question that I would have for you is for anyone out there that's listening to this podcast and they can hear the sound of your voice if they know anything about what happened to Corey. What would you like to say to that person or persons if you know anything about what happened to Corey Strader Stretch of Saline County, Arkansas. I beg you to dig down deep in your heart and your soul. Just dig deep, do the right thing. Know that you're doing something courageous, brave, and God will keep you safe.

44:30 You will bring my family so much peace. You'll bring my brother peace. Just know it's the right thing to do. It will cleanse your soul. It's the right thing to do. And just because it's the right thing to do and you're cleansing your soul, God will keep you. And that concludes Corey Schrader's story. What happened to Corey four years ago? Did he just walk away from his life? According to his sister, he loved his family way too much to walk away from them. Are the rumors about his death true? His family seems to think so. Corey's described as being six foot six and weighing over two hundred pounds. He was last seen wearing a gray hooded sweatshirt and carrying a backpack. The backpack has since been returned to the family. Corey's official missing date is May twenty first, twenty nineteen, after he was dropped off at a local store. If you have any information about Corey's whereabouts, please contact the Saline Sheriff's apartment at five zero one three zero three, five six four seven or five zero one three zero three five six four eight. And if you would like to make an anonymous call, please call five zero one three zero three five seven four four. And if you would like additional information about Corey's case, please visit the Corey Schrader Have

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