July 12, 2023

Episode 183: Cornelis "Casey" Bokslag (Part 2 of 2)

Episode 183: Cornelis "Casey" Bokslag (Part 2 of 2)

This week's story is the conclusion of a two-part story involving a 29-year-old Utah man named Cornelis “Casey” Bokslag, who was born in the city of Tilburg in the Netherlands and immigrated to America in 2001 with his family. Casey’s parents are...

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This week's story is the conclusion of a two-part story involving a 29-year-old Utah man named Cornelis “Casey” Bokslag, who was born in the city of Tilburg in the Netherlands and immigrated to America in 2001 with his family. Casey’s parents are Robert and Els Schuts Bokslag. Casey was also the oldest of three children. In 2007, the family settled in Sandy, Utah.


For this story, I will refer to Cornelis as Casey, which was his nickname. Casey would adapt to American culture and the English language after arriving in the country. On June 6, 2022, he was last seen at a Wells Fargo ATM in Salt Lake City, Utah.


Casey enjoyed being outdoors and was a frequent skier. His father Robert said Casey was an active and adventurous young man who decided to find adventure in the United States Marine Corps. After he left the Marines with an honorable discharge, Casey secured a job as a ranger working at the Watershed for Salt Lake City Public Utilities. It was the agency in charge of providing drinking water. Robert last saw his son on Saturday, June 4, 2022, and everything seemed normal. He had visited his parents and had dinner with them. Robert said the visit seemed normal.


On June 5, Robert said Casey was playing an online game with one of his younger brothers. He told his brother he had to go because his rice was done. Casey also bought a gun that same day. His father didn’t seem concerned because Casey enjoyed shooting. Besides, he was a Marine Corps veteran trained in firing weapons.


According to Robert, Casey was captured on a security before noon on Monday June 6th. He left his apartment alone in South Salt Lake. He had his backpack on and was likely headed to his job for his online training scheduled for noon.


He was also seen withdrawing $100 from a Wells Fargo ATM in Salt City which was near his job. He never made it to work. After leaving the ATM machine, he has never been seen again. Robert says law enforcement checked Casey’s cell phone records. And according to phone records, his phone was last active in the area of the ATM machine.


On June 8th, Casey's boss became concerned when he didn’t show up for work. His boss contacted Robert to share his concerns. It definitely wasn’t like Casey to not show up for work. He was reliable and would never not show up for work without a good reason. After launching a massive search, law enforcement found no trace of Casey. He’s been missing for just over a year. His family is desperately trying to find him.


Casey is 6’2” tall, weighs 140 lbs., has blond hair and gray eyes, with a goatee. He typically wears long green Wrangler cargo pants, a T-shirt, military boots or sneakers, and a cap. Anyone with information about Casey’s whereabouts is asked to contact the South Salt Lake Police Department at (801) 940-6179 or contact Valley Emergency Communication’s Center at (801) 840-4000 and reference case number LK2022-18693.


Additionally, the family has set up a website and Facebook page dedicated to finding Casey. The website is titled Casey Missing (https://caseymissing.bokslag-usa.com/). And the FB is titled Cornelis “Casey” Bokslag Missing. There is also a $50,000 reward for anyone who can provide useful information leading to finding Casey.


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Hello, and welcome to the Cash
My Killer Podcast. Thank you for listening.

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My name is Mark. For nearly
eight years, I've written a weekly

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newspaper column about true crimes and missing
people for the Claremont Sun newspaper in Ohio.

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With the column and podcast, it
has always been my objective to bring

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attention to cases that have not received
much media attention if any. This week's

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story involves a twenty nine year old
Utah man named Cornelius Boxlog. For this

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story, I will refer to Cornelius
as Casey has preferred nickname. Casey was

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born in the Netherlands and immigrated to
America as a child. He served four

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years in the United States Marine Corps. He transitioned back to civilian life after

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serving four years in the service.
On June sixth, twenty twenty two.

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He would last be seen withdrawing money
from an ATM machine. No one has

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seen Casey since driving away from the
ATM machine. This is the conclusion of

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a two part story. If you
haven't already listened to the first half,

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please go back and listen to it. Cornelius Boxlog, twenty nine was born

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in the city of Tilburg in the
Netherlands. And immigrated to America in two

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thousand and one with his family.
Casey's parents are Robert and Ells Huts Boxlog.

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Casey was also the oldest of three
children. In two thousand and seven,

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the family settled in Sandy, Utah. For this story, I will

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refer to Cornelius as Casey, which
was his nickname. Casey would adapt to

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American culture in the English language after
arriving in the country on June sixth,

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twenty twenty two. He was last
seen at a wells fargo atm Machine and

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Salt Lake City, Utah. Casey
enjoyed being outdoors and was a frequent skier.

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His father, Robert, said that
Casey was a very active young man.

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He also said that his son was
adventurous and that's why he decided to

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find adventure by joining the United States
Marine Corps. After leaving the Marines with

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an honorable discharge, Casey secured a
job as a ranger working at the watershed

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for Salt Lake City Public Utilities.
It was the agency in charge of providing

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drinking water. Robert last saw his
son on Saturday, June fourth, twenty

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twenty two. Everything seemed normal.
He had visited his parents and had dinner

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with them. Robert said there was
nothing unusual about Casey's visit. His behavior

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didn't arouse any suspicion their concerns.
Casey had told his parents that he had

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work related virtual training for the upcoming
Monday and Tuesday. Robert said that his

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son was mythed about it because he
had to take the tests on his days

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off. On June fifth, Robert
said that Casey was playing an online game

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with one of his younger brothers.
He told his brother he had to go

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because his rice was done. Casey
had also bought a gun that same day.

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His father didn't seem concerned about the
gun purchase because Casey enjoyed shooting.

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Besides, he was a Marine Corps
veteran trained and firing weapons. According to

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Robert, Casey was captured on a
security camera before noon on Monday, June

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the sixth. He had left his
apartment alone in South Salt Lake. He

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had his backpack on and was likely
headed to his job for his online training

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scheduled for noon. He was last
seen with drawing one hundred dollars from a

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Wells Fargo atm Machine in Salt Lake
City, which was near his job,

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but he never made it to work. After leaving the ATM machine, he

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has never been seen again. Robert
says that law enforcement checked Casey's cell phone

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records, and according to phone records, his phone was last active in the

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area of the ATM machine. On
June eighth. Casey's boss became concerned when

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he didn't show up for work.
His boss contacted Robert to share his concerns.

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It definitely wasn't like Casey to not
show up for work. He was

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reliable and always showed up. Robert
has said he had not seen his son

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and he did not know where he
was. Casey's vehicle would later be found

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a band off I eighty by the
Castle Rock exit near the Wyoming border in

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Summit County, Utah. Casey's E
six eight FE license plate was missing.

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After launching a massive search, law
enforcement found no trace of Casey. He's

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been missing for just over a year. His family is desperately trying to find

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him. And now on with the
story of Cornelius Buxlock, as told by

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his father, Robert Buxlock. Now, before Casey disappeared, can you tell

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me about his social life? Did
he have a girlfriend, children, or

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anything along those lines? So he
never had much over a social life.

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He wasn't into food or any sports. At school, he always had a

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couple of good friends. He had
no girlfriends, and at some point in

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the time he had a boyfriend,
so we discovered that he was gay,

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which we grew up in the Midlands, and the Midlands is a very free

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and open society, so for us
it's no issue at all. And when

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he came back from the Marine corphere
he had that boyfriend, he wasn't That

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was a guy from here, from
the city here, and he and the

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boyfriend actually lived in our house for
a while. So then it was a

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good relationship. No violence or anything
like that, No violence at all.

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It was a good relationship till at
some point. Some relations I'd say,

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they grow apart. And once things
annoy you, they started annoying you more

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and more. And then at some
point in case, she said, well,

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my friend, this is not working. So they splayed up. And

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the case he was a person I
think there's social things he had who was

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with people at work. He went
with the guys and to go from work,

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they went to see movie, they
went outward, dinner, every things

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like that case. He came at
least later, because in twenty twenty I

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had my stroke and since the stroke, he at least once a week he

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came over and we had dinner together
and stuff like that. Based on your

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description of Casey, he sounds like
a really great son. Yeah, he

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is. And that was the thing
where his boss called me on June because

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case he is always very reliable.
If he says I'll be there at two,

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he is there at five minutes.
He's not going to live you waiting

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till two thirty. He'll text or
call and say I got a flat or

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whatever happened. But normally you could
totally rely only. And also his boss

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was really worried because it was the
first time he didn't show up. So

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this hall would have occurred on June
as correct, two days after Casey officially

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disappeared. Yeah, June night and
June fourth, the Saturday, we had

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a dinner here at our house.
He was there, my youngest film was

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there, and it was normal.
He just complained a bit because Monday and

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Tuesday were his days off, and
on Monday and Tuesday he had to do

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some online training things like yeah,
and I got to do a training on

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my day off and blah blah blah, but it was very cool and very

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normal. Afternoon, we said goodbye
and my younger son talks to MMS from

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the afternoon around four o'clock and they
talked about the game on team. I

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think they used team to talk to
each other on them. I had set

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in the computer and then the Monday, June sixth, he had to do

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a training. Well, his boss
said later told me that he never showed

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up for the online training, so
that was strange. The seventh he had

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to do another training online. He
never did that training. So on the

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age when he was expected to be
back at work, he didn't show up.

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He was boss called me, he
said, you know where case he

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is at work? I guess no. He didn't show up, so we

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went to his apartment and there was
no answer at the door. We went

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to the office and they said,
well, if you want to get into

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apartment, we Edward didn't have a
key, so if you want to get

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into the apartment, she got contact
the police. So they helped us because

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we don't know anything in Southold,
like it's another city, and they helped

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us contact the police. Nice came
and they did the welfare check and they

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said, he's not there, and
he said he has a little silver Suzuki.

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Kay check if his car is there. So they went and searched on

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the parking lot and his car was
also gone, and he was registered as

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missing and his car was the license
plate and make and mole were also registered

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with the household like police. And
by that time you're very sick and you

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pull he said, will investigate.
And in the evening I got a phone

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call and they said we found the
car, and I was like, whoa,

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that's a good well. They found
the car on a dirt parking lot

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next to the freeway in the direction
of Evanston, Wyoming. So this the

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state boarder to east. It's about
an hour and fifteen minutes from Salt Lake

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City. It's a sparsely populated area, I would say, but the parking

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world and where they found the car, it's all open to right and there's

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no forest there. It's all grassland
because it's pretty high up and it's pretty

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dry, so that's all grass land. And certainly in the summer or in

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June, it's all dry. It's
all yellow grass and then a couple of

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bushes, but nothing much there.
So you can see the car from the

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freeway. It wasn't hidden at all. But one thing was very strange.

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The lightest plates were removed, and
one thing that immediately took my attention the

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screws were put back in the car. It would be a thing that I

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would do, just not willing to
lose his screws. He put them back.

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That's the way to do it.
But it also says that whoever removed

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the license plate took their time.
It wasn't rushed it something yeah, I

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would say someone someone did that fairly, calmly. Was no reason to believe

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that in case he would hurt himself. There were some suggestions of other people,

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well maybe money problems. Well no, he did. He had and

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he still has a very substantial money
amount of money in the bank account.

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And because he was sizing up for
buying his first house, and let me

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tell you, he had enough to
do a substantial doubt and payment. So

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money wasn't an issue in his personal
life. We don't know, but we

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never found any reason to believe there
was an issue there. People from us

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weren't all say, well, he
seemed happy and the great to work with

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and listen than that. So on
a personal level, no indication whatsoever why

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he would leave. On the other
hand, the police also found no indication

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whatsoever overcrime. There were no blood
in the car or any traces of struggling

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every belonging. That more scene on
the video when he left his apartment,

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because there's video from June sixth that
he leaves his apartment. I think it

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was eleven forty or thereabouts. He
has his backpack for work, although he

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didn't have to work that day.
Something that looks like lunch box or something

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like that. So officially case,
he was last seen on the sixth when

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a security camera picked him up taking
one hundred dollars out of his bank account.

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Does that sound correct? So from
the sixth, we have a couple

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of cameras. One camera is from
his apartment building. Unfortunately, his apartment

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building had a lot of broken cameras, so for instance the parking lot camera

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that didn't work. But we have
a friend of mine and my wife.

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They check down a store or a
business. I think they got to drive

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all or stuff, and they have
a camera facing the street and you could

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see a car exactly like my son's
car and with a person who is probably

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about six feet which is my sun
side driving to the street at eleven fifty,

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so that totally makes sense. That
is about ten minutes from his home.

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He's driving north towards his workplace,
and a couple of minutes later he

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is on camera at a nearby Wells
Fargo at M where he very normally calmly

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gets a hundred bucks in cash.
And even though what the probable backstory is

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why he needed cash because he was
going to treat some of the temporary workers

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that the watershed employees in the summer. He was going to treat them for

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Peter. So we know from a
very short period from about twenty minutes,

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we have him on camera a couple
of times, but never on his workplace.

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They have cameras on the parking lot
and he never showed them. And

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we think he might have gone to
his workplace because he couldn't connect to his

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training from home for whatever reason,
and thought I'll go to the workplace and

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to grab one of the computers there
and do the training there. It's a

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theory, it's not confirmed. No
one else. Another thing that he did

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on the Sunday before he disappeared is
he bought a handgun. He talked to

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my youngest son who likes guns.
They they go bang and they loud,

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and that's why he likes it,
no other reason. Just why do you

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like fireworks? Will they go bang? And they talked about him buying a

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gun, and then it's stuff that
they talked about. Funny enough, I

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didn't talk about that one Sunday when
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after the gun was purchased. The
police knows when the gun was purchased at

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what time. I'm not sure that
it's possibly even a videos from the gun

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store. And because if you buy
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so his background check was done at
a certain time and when it comes

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back to the gun store as okay, that's okay, you can take the

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gun home, So that's what he
did. That gun is also missing,

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so we assume that gun was in
his back back when he left on money.

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After that, the car was found
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The police has been able to find
a witness who believes that the car

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was parked there already on Monday,
so between eleven forty leaving his suburbense and

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somewhere on Monday late afternoon or evening
the car was brought to that parking lot

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because she disappeared. And I'm assuming
that there were no witnesses, So no

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one actually saw anyone driving Casey's car
to that remote location. No, no,

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no one has been able to be
track or whatever. No, police

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doesn't hasn't been able to check anyone
down. And what about a cell phone?

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He did have a cell phone?
Is that correct? Yep, he

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had a cell phone, and he
didn't have much values if to think and

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send the text and make a phone
call. He was good and a still

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smartphone. He was handy with looking
things up on his phone and stuff.

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His phone was switched off or at
least the signal was lost again around that

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noontime on the sixth, and according
to police, the last time the cell

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phone was in contact with the cell
tower was around the area where the ATM

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was. And so the car was
found way to the east, like I

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said, an hour and fifteen minute
drive. There is no trace of any

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cell phone things to any towers in
that area or on the way to it,

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because along that freeway there's cell phone
towers almost everywhere. So the cell

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phone was either switched off, empty, broke, or whatever happened and where

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is his cell phone at now that's
with it. So his cell phone and

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pistol both went with him, because
neither of those items have ever been located.

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That's correct. And his license plate
is also missing. There's a license

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plate, his bullet with all his
bank cards and his credit card. And

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on the website that there's a list
of things. There's some really weird special

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things that you're unique. He had
a key hangar that had two pictures of

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Diolate far who died in twenty twenty. We made a key hanger everyone who

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gave everyone one just as a remembrance, So that was on his key chain.

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He had one of those baracord doles. I think that was also on

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the keys. So another possibility with
Casey's disappearance is suicide. What do you

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think about that? Do you think
it's possible that he may have taken his

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own life? Yeah, I believe
that possibility number one. Also for the

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police and the area around where his
phone was, his car was found,

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it was searched intensively, intensively.
It was search on foot, he was

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searched on horseback because of the terrain. They did a helicopter search, they

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did a drone search, several volunteers
search weekend noster weekend. One guy is

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a Marine Corps guy. He went
to there I think last summer. He

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went there every weekend and searched a
little bit different area. In last week

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the police of an area and together
with the detective from Sasold Lake Protector HIMSOL,

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they searched the area south of the
freeway, so they got permission from

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the wrenchers there to go on their
ranch and normal for searchers, including the

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last one, showed any trace of
him. After an extensive search, there

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was no sign of Casey. What
could have happened to this young man?

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People don't just vanish into thin air. Was it possible that he committed suicide?

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Perhaps Casey was suppressed and had not
shared this with anyone. But even

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if he committed suicide, what happened
to his body? People who commit suicide

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usually want to be found. We
will take a short break and then listen

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to Robert's thoughts on whether or not
Casey could have taken his own life.

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Well, the thing about suicide is
that, based on my own research about

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people who have committed suicide, they
often will do it where they know their

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body will be found. Because they
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But in this particular case, I
mean, it's almost as if he

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just vanished. There's no clues,
no witnesses, there's just nothing. So

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in my opinion, it doesn't seem
likely that he did commit suicide unless he

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decided to go somewhere where he couldn't
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But it just doesn't seem likely.
Would you remove your license plates if you

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commit suicie? You know what,
if I was going to take my own

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life, I think removing my license
plate would probably be the last thing on

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my mind. And no, I
wouldn't remove my license plate, and I

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know I wouldn't because it just wouldn't
be something that I would even think about.

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Well, if you actually think about
it, there's no reason to touch

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your license plate unless you're putting a
new sticker on it after you renew it.

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Other than that, I can't really
think of another reason to touch your

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license plate exactly. Well, suicide
isn't exactly something that is a pleasant thought,

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and I don't like to think about
it. But if I was going

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to do it, I know I
would do it where I could be found

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because I definitely would not want to
put my family through anything stressful as to

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trying to figure out what happened to
me. And I know that's probably how

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most people think when they do commit
suicide. They don't go hide somewhere and

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do it where there's no trade to
them. So then if this isn't suicide,

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then I'm kind of wondering. But
if it wasn't suicide, he was

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familiar with the wilderness, so is
it possible that perhaps he went out to

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do something and maybe he fell into
a river or he experienced some other accident.

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So that's another theory, is that
he went with someone else and there

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was an unfortunate accident and the other
rip person, Bennock, got the car

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and the car, but there's no
trace of anyone else in the cart.

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The funny thing is it even looks
like a car was cleaned, and my

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son was always very neat on his
car. There was never old food wrappers

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or stuff like that, which bo
people have in the cars. He didn't.

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I don't either. I'm like that
also me too. Yeah, yes,

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I have to say that I'm kind
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if you were looking in my vehicle
right now, you wouldn't see anything.

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There's no rappers, cans, there's
nothing. I really just don't keep

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anything in my car other than my
registration and insurance information of my glove compartment.

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I don't have anything in my vehicle. I keep my car basically empty.

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If you look at my car,
it's the same. The only thing

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you might trying to do for the
last few sheets from the gas station.

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Oh, I can leave my car
open if I got confession, nothing in

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it. But Mama show was also
like he had nothing in this car except

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he had always had fresh water.
So, because we have a strange climate

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in the winter, it can get
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areas that are most regular roads.
Normally, if he had to go into

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the mountains for work. Here we
get the full draft pick up church from

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work, pillars drove to the work
church. So but just because you got

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stuck, you always had some more. He always had the keeping bag,

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you know, first aid kid,
just for the sensible things to have.

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Inn Clark Casey has been missing for
just over a year. What happened to

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this young man? Is he a
victim of foul play? He didn't have

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any known enemies, and he wasn't
involved in any high risk activities that might

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be considered dangerous. We also discussed
the theory of suicide that seems unlikely as

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well, because nobody has ever been
found. Casey's father would learn of another

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possibility that seemed too strange to be
true. We will take our final break

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and return with Robert's thoughts on this
strange theory and what he thinks may have

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happened to his son. So,
in your opinion of all the things that

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could have happened to Casey, what
do you think is most likely to have

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happened to this young man? If
I objectively look at it, I have

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no clue. The only thing is
they're they're One of his co workers made

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a suggestion. It was almost like
a joke, and he said, well,

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maybe he went to go fight in
Ukraine. We were like, you're

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crazy, why would he do that? But Casey is someone who if he

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felt very strongly about something that would
be absolute what he did. You know

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what, that's a really odd thing
for someone to say. I mean,

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of any theory in the world that
could be out there, why would anyone

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suggest that he would travel to a
foreign country and fight in a battle overseas

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and not mention this to anyone.
Do you think there's something to this?

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Is this even possible that could be
something to it? But then I imagine

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if your son was going to do
something like that, he might not tell

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you because he might know that you
would be angry and no one would support

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him doing something like this. But
if it's something that he felt really passionate

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about, maybe he did decide to
go do it and just not tell anyone.

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But really, that's a strange thing
for the coworker to say. And

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if your son was going to do
something like this, it would seem odd

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that the only person he would tell
this too would a coworker, unless he

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was really close to that coworker.
But I've never heard you say that he

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had that side of a relationship with
anyone that he worked with. Yeah.

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Yeah, And just in the weeks
after he disappeared, everyone's still thinking about

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it, everyone's still talking about it. And I had the very good support

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and contact with his boss. And
he asked the co worker, how do

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you mean that? And then he
said, I it was a joke,

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stepped back from what he said earlier, which can mean it was a joke

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or he doesn't want to talk about
it because maybe he did it. Even

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recently we talked to her. My
wife communicated with his best body in the

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Moon Corps that I talked about earlier, and he had the opinion that in

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case he thought about that, he
would do it. He also mentioned that

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she found very strong about his European
heritage, being from the Midlands, being

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born there. He was very proud
of that. So, but the Netherlands

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is at least a certain amount of
the population, it relates very much with

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the people in the Ukraine. The
Midlands was occupied in World War Two,

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and we are generations that never knew
World War Two, but we learned a

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lot about it, and we had
it in school and I think in fifth

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grade, I think that whole year
history was just about World War Two because

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it was so important in the history
of Nedlands. A lot of people in

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the middle ofs feel very strongly about
Ukraine. And his buddy said, well,

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if that's the case, I can
see him do that. So we

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even got the police at the moment
looking into it. The context that we

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know that he had with the Marine
Corps and his old buddies. The recruiting

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sergeant thinking his superior in at the
last post that he was. We gave

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all that information to the police and
said if you want to look into it.

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We haven't been able to find anyone
confirming it. But maybe he didn't

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go the official route. If he
went. If you look on the internet

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and fighting into Ukraine, within five
minutes, you've got a couple of links

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of people who say they get you
to Ukraine or mercenary organizations. I don't

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know how that works. I don't
want to know how they work. But

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that's the most going theory from our
side, but only at the end.

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It's also he don't leaves something right
because he's gone. He's just gone.

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But even if your son did go
to fight in the Ukraine, don't you

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think that he would have confided in
one of his brothers or someone else close

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to him, He would think unless
he didn't want to burdened them with keeping

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a secret. Right, because if
you tell your burn, your Burwick can

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tell his parents. That's at the
last thing to do either. But we

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don't know if we stick with effect
is the last fact? Did you know

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becase he taking one hundred dollars out
of a naken? That's the last fact

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we do. So the last time
he was seeing was he was taking money

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out of the ATM machine. And
it's believed that he was taking this money

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out because he was going to buy
pizza for people at his job. So

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if he knew he was going to
disappear, why would he even take the

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hundred dollars out? I mean,
what can you really do with a hundred

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dollars? So it does seem likely
that if he was going to take that

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kind of money out, that would
be just enough to cover pizza. So

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if he was intending on leaving,
why would he even bother getting money out

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to buy pizza? That seems strange. Well, again, the fury is

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that he went to a spacial for
work because he couldn't get connected to the

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well in training or he thought,
I I'll just go in and do the

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training many frova tooth measure to feet
people or but unfortunately he never made it

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to work. He never showed up
a tooth workplace. No, and just

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to confirm your son's story, after
he left the ATM machine and drove away,

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no one else has actually physically seen
him again. Correct, And then

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his vehicle shows up deserted with no
license plate. But whoever removed the screws

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put them back inside the vehicle instead
of taking them with him. I also

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find that kind of odd. Why
not just take the screws with you?

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Correct? And what about his financial
records? I had read that his finances

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haven't been touched since he disappeared,
So no one's tried to withdraw money out

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of his bank account or tried to
use his credit cards or anything like that.

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No, the policemen who started the
investigation had it warned, and his

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bank accountal was very healthy and very
recently. The police, although due didn't

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have a warned as the bank.
Has there been any activity and the bank

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respondent no, So it's almost as
if he just disappeared off the face of

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the planet, because there's just nothing. Yeah, and if you go away,

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I would say, even if car
insurance is being paid, because there's

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an automatic payment, and even we
can't do anything about it because we have

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no pot the fraternity and my sons
isn't dead, he's missing and there's no

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proof of a crime, so I
can't even cancel his car insurance although we

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know the cars local road because it's
still in the police cussity. And when

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they searched his car. They didn't
find anything, did they There was no

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blood or there was no other evidence
of anyone else being in that vehicle.

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Is that correct? Nope, No, they didn't find any evidence with anyone

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else. But like, is he
in Detective series when you get him the

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strange cars? Hey, your rental
car? What's the first thing you do?

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Get the seat right? Most definitely, that's the first thing you want

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to do, just the seat to
make sure it's appropriate for your height.

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Yeah, but I'm six foot five, so for me, it's always the

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seat because I hate being with my
nose in the steering wheel. We're in

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the feeling. That's why I don't
like cars with moon loose because the feeling

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is lower. And what was the
status of the seat. Was it brought

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in closer or was it appropriate for
someone of his height? No, they

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said the seat would be for someone
around six feet so it's sagistic like he

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would sit there. There were no
other things like a mirror. In fact,

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mirror, that's another thing you would
dig if you get in someone else's

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car. Right, all those strings, radio, bootons or whatever. They

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intensively they went through the whole car, took out to spare. They searched

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everything and they haven't found anything.
So based on everything that I have read

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about this case and everything that you
have told me about your son, there's

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no indication of anything happening, no
indication of foul play, suicide. There's

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just really nothing. It's really hard
to even come up with a theory about

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what happened to your son. In
many cases you might find something to indicate

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it was foul play or a suicide, but for your son's case, you

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truly have nothing to go on at
this point. Yeah, there's nothing.

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And then nor of the items that
he clearly had with him when enough to

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SPREADNT were found. So of his
backpack with whatever was in there, of

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his large books apparently the government that
he had most likely with him, it

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wasn't found, you know that,
of his licens, bank cards, bullard

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keys, nothing And what law enforcement
agency is handling your son's case. So

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if anyone wanted to call in a
tip about your son, who would they

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need to contact? Because case she
lived in a South Salt Lake which is

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a difference the case handled by the
South Salt Lake Police Department and the person

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who handles his case is Detective Hanson
and If anyone wants to learn more about

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Casey's story, what website or Facebook
pages can they go to to learn more.

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My wife has set up a Facebook
page, and I'm not sure about

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what is where, what the name
is, but we have a website and

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the website is Casey Missing. That's
c A S E Y M I S

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S E N G I MG sorry
dot book flag im usa dot com.

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And there is the whole story when
he went missing, what he was wearing,

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what he had with him, where
his car was found, when he

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was last seen at well. I'll
definitely make sure to share all this information

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in the case story notes. So
now let me ask you what is it

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that you miss the most about Casey. Tell me about that for one of

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his company because of the last works, and then I do the household silvers

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welcome, come fro flee routine.
That to those who would usually come over

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here on Tuesday afternoon, his last
day of his weekend, and we had

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dinner together and talk together. You
can't come over for a lunch show be

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at lunch with my wife who works
in evening MS. That also missed his

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stories about his adventures with people in
the watershed and in the canyons and stupid

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things like this guy with a pick
of truck and he went to his brakes

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and he gather up the road,
and you know, all kinds of strange

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stories were in the hunting season.
They found almost complete Kevin with a stove

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and everything in it, built in
a national forest area where you don't build

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anything, but someone build a shed
there. That's something I missed the most.

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So it sounds like once you missed
the most is his companionship and being

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a father and grandfather myself, I
understand how you must feel because I talked

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to my youngest son and my grandson
pretty regularly and we have a lot of

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conversations. We go out to eat
and do things together, and I just

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couldn't imagine what it would be like
if one day either one of them were

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gone from my life and I didn't
have them to speak to anymore. Yeah.

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Yeah, companionship, his stories and
being able to share with going in

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his life and our life, etc. And once in a while we go

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back to the Netherlands because my mom
is getting a little bit older, and

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I think you would always go with
us if get back from Marine Corps.

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He was always like, oh yeah, I'll go back, and so this

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year we'll go back and it's going
to be the first time without him.

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It's going to be strange. Unfortunately. I think it's going to be a

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very difficult trip for your family.
I mean emotionally making it without JC.

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Yeah, you think about it,
and some days are better, some days

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or worse. And no news is
there's so good news now no news is

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no news, there's nothing. And
I think the worst thing is the uncertainty.

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It's very difficult. But on the
other hand, the rest of your

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life goes on and you can't go
sit down in a corner and cry because

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it doesn't help him, doesn't help
us. We try to keep the unawareness

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out there that if someone sees him, that they respond and either inform the

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police department or inform us either through
Facebook or email or tax story. My

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phone number isn't whitely published on purpose
because we had a few so called private

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detectives and stuff. And if you
read up all those folks in the most

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of immerse scamps, right, you
have all the nut jobs out there looking

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to exploit people in your situation,
people who are suffering from missing a loved

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one, And that's a pretty low
down disgusting shame that people are out there

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doing that, trying to take advantage
of people in their worst moments. Yep,

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I didn't want to use that word, but the job is exactly what

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you want to keep off your phone
in the and that's why the first context

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you I believe you had still Facebook, right. I saw the story on

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Facebook shared by Casey's mother, and
it was one that I thought and needed

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to be told because I could just
tell by looking at the photos of him

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and reading about him on the Internet
that he was a very important person in

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your life and his mother's life,
and I just wanted it to get out.

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And plus for the fact that I'm
a military veteran and I have a

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special place in my heart for military
veterans that go missing or get murdered,

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so I definitely wanted to share his
story. And with that being said,

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my last question that I would have
for you is for anyone out there who's

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listening to the sound of your voice, if they know anything about what happened

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to Casey or where he may be, if he's still alive, what would

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you like to say to that person
or persons. I would say, if

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you know anything, first, thing
to do, pull the police, contact

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the Teck Defension or co a generic
number forty the Emergency Communication Center. Of

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course, you can always email in
different ways. You can email me directly,

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but preferably you email to Casey Missing
at gmail discom, which I will

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also read daily and then immediately know
what it's about, because if you email

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MC personally, it might get lost
in the amounts of SPEM that I still

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get. And yeah, one thing
to mention, I believe there's still the

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fifty thousand door award out for any
information who which brings him back. So

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I think that's one of the news. And that concludes the story of Casey

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box log. If you haven't already
listened to the first half, please go

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back and listen to it. Have
you seen this adventurous military veteran Casey has

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described as being six foot two,
weighing one hundred and forty pounds. He

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has blonde hair and gray eyes and
a goatee. He typically wears long green

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Wrangler cargo pants, a T shirt, military boots or sneakers, and a

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cap. Anyone with information Casey's whereabouts
is asked to contact the South Salt Lake

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Police Department at eight zero one nine
four zero six one seven nine, or

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contact Valley Emergency Communications Center at eight
zero one eight four zero four zero zero

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zero and reference case number LK twenty
twenty two DASH one eighty six nine three.

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Additionally, the family has set up
a website and Facebook page, both

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dedicated to finding Casey. The website
is titled Casey Missing and the Facebook page

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is titled Cornelius Casey voxlog Missing.
There is also a fifty thousand dollars reward

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for anyone who can provide useful information
leading to finding Casey. I will also

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provide all of this information in the
case story It's and if you are a

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parent, law enforcement official, friend, or relative seein US as for an

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unsolved thomicide case, please visit my
website and complete the contact form. You

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can also contact me through Facebook.
Thank you for listening.