Episode 181: Theresa Lynn Morris (Part 2 of 2)

0:13 Hello, and welcome to the Catch My Killer Podcast. Thank you for listening. My name is Mark. For nearly eight years, I've written a weekly newspaper column about true crimes and missing people for the Claremont Sun newspaper in Ohio. With the column and podcast, my objective has always been to try to bring attention to the cases that haven't received much media attention, if any. This week's story involves a twenty one year old Alabama woman named Teresalyn Morris, who was found dead and wrapped up in a blanket behind a Piggy Wiggly store in Ladonia, Alabama, on April twenty eighth, nineteen ninety four. The young mother of four had vanished on April second, ninety four. Her homicide has remained unsolved for nearly thirty years. This is the conclusion of a two part story, and if you haven't already listened to the first half, please go back and listen to it. Teresa Len Morris was a Phoenix City, Alabama mother of four who was found deceased behind a Piggy Wiggly and Ladonia, Alabama, on April twenty eighth, nineteen ninety four. There wasn't much left of her once she was found, and what did remain of her was likely

1:46 scattered by animals. She had been missing since April second before she was found deceased. Teresa was only twenty one years old when she died, but her entire life had been troubled. According to her daughter Danica, she had her first child at fifteen and was also sexually abused as a child. Teresa was born in California on October eighteenth, nineteen seventy two. Her parents were Diane Pulaski and William Morris. According to her daughter Danica, it was unknown whether or not William Morris was actually her biological father. Teresa was a middle child of three. She has an older brother named Kenneth and a younger sister named Melissa, who recently passed away. Other than a tiny newspaper article in an Alabama newspaper, there is no information about Teresa's death, and that is a major issue with telling her story and many of the stories that I share.

2:49 There are videos, news coverage, and other information that I can share about the victim's story, and for stories like Teresa's, these are the reasons why do this podcast. Teresa's story deserves to receive as much media coverage as anyone else's, and since her case has been mostly forgotten, it reduces the chances that her killer will ever be arrested. Teresa was the mother of four children who lost their mother when they were young, so none of them have any warm memories of spending Mother's Day with her, or even celebrating birthdays, holidays, or even just sitting around the family dinner table having a nice dinner.

3:29 Unfortunately, someone took her life and has denied her children of creating any memories with their mother. Teresa's daughter Danica, has reached out the law enforcement for help and trying to find out what happened to her mother nearly thirty years ago. Unfortunately, there is no longer any genetic evidence and she doesn't have many people who can speak to her about her mother's final moments alive. She was able to connect with the man who found her mother's body, but he wasn't able to provide any useful information for Teresa's story. I spoke to her daughter, Dannekah Hovey. This is the conclusion of a two part story, and now on with Teresa's story as told by her daughter Dannikah Hovey. During the first half of this story, I had spoken to Teresa's daughter, Danica about genetic evidence being left behind. Danika told me that there was actually genetic evidence left behind. Unfortunately, law enforcement did not keep the evidence in a storage facility. Instead, they turned it over to the funeral home with Teresa's remains.

4:46 The evidence was then disposed of. Had it been buried with Teresa's remains, it would then have been possible for law enforcement to exhume Teresa's remains and then examine it for genetic evidence. Janika had shared with me her frustration over no one's storing evidence that could have possibly led to the arrest of her mother's killer. Had they had stored it properly and kept it, they could have tested that. With the way technology have come now, they could have taken that out of evidence and test it to see if there was DNA on it. But now they can't. And I didn't know that. I just found that out. I thought they had this evidence locked away somewhere and we could pull it out and I know it might take some time, but get them to retest it. And then I find out. I read the report and everything was signed over to the funeral home. So I called McMullan, which is a local funeral home here. I called them to see if they could pull the report because it said that if the clothes were sent with her in the body bag, that it would have been buried with her. I was going to pay to get her body exhumed, to get that stuff out of there and to get it tested. Yeah, I was going to ask about getting her exhumed. So maybe there is some type of evidence that remained behind or do you think there's a chance that there's anything that could be useful.

6:12 It wouldn't help us. There wasn't enough of her left to get a right kid. I mean, there wasn't enough of her, and that's the messed up part. I think that's really a shame. But I think back in ninety four that DNA was still in the stages of early development, So I'm not thinking that a lot of different police departments were thinking about storing evidence and instead they just found it easier to just dispose of it. I don't really know how it works out with different police departments, but I've heard stories that some kept items even back from the eighties because they figured there might be some type of advances and technology, while others just one and disposed of the items.

7:01 I don't think there was a set standard among every police department in the country. I don't think there ever has been. I think they just saw do whatever it is they do. Yeah, but if you're going to say you're investigating something as a murder, common sense would tell you we need to hang on to this because this case is a murder investigation, not a suicide or an accident. Why keep it open all these years? Well, you'd be surprised how uncommon common senses these days, not with just law enforcement, but just people in general. You ain't never lied? And where are your mom's remains today? You said she's buried. Do you live near the area where she was buried? So the state paid for her burial. She is buried in town. I have not been to her grave. It has a marker on it, it doesn't have a headstone or anything. I wouldn't see the point. If those things were with her, I would seriously look into getting her body zoomed and getting that evidence out of there. But since they disposed of it, there's no point. I'm not going to disturb what's left of her to try to prove a point when it's not going to do me any good. Now, how did you find out about the evidence being disposed of? Did law enforcement tell you this or did you learn this from the funeral home? The police report that I read stated that they signed it over and then I called McMullin. They poured her file and it says that they

8:31 disposed of her stuff because it was considered a biohazard. So to me, it really sounds like you're truly stuck behind the proverbial eight paul in your mother's case because you don't have any evidence. You don't have anything, so you really don't have a good starting place to find out what happened to your mother. But I would suggest that even though you don't have that much to go on, that you still keep up with the police and see which you can find out on your own. I can tell you one of the very first interviews that I ever did when I first started this podcast several years ago, the young lady I interviewed was trying to get justice for her brother because her brother's death was ruled an accident, if I recall, and she told me several years ago, I'm not gonna let this go until I find out what happened to my brother and his killer goes to prison. While low and behold, she just put up a recent post that the person who shot her brother to death has been arrested and charged with the murder of her brother. So she's never let go, and she told me several years ago she's going to keep going till she gets justice. So it's taken her while to have this success because it's taken her years because her brother's been deceased for a while.

9:54 So if you're really determined to find out what happened to your mother, then I think it's just something that you're gonna have to stick it out no matter how long it takes, because it could be a very lengthy process for you to ever find out what truly happened to her. But she was your mother, and I'm sure to you it's worth it to wait. Whatever time you spend and trying to find out what happened to her, it will all come down to being worth it if you're able to get the truth. That's been me for the past three weeks. I had an appointment with the sheriff over in Merstll County, which is in Alabama, where her death happened, and I sat down with the guy from the DA's office and I was explaining to them my questions, my concerned dates that didn't match up. So there's one piece of evidence left somewhere unless it's been crushed or disposed of whatever. After asking Daneka about a potential suspect being involved killing her mother, she told me that her and her siblings have an idea that they know who did this.

11:05 However, the police have never officially named anyone as a suspect, so I bleeped out the name for privacy reasons. There's a car out there somewhere that was reported that was driving and could have possibly been involved with her murder. And I actually had to get with my sister to find this car because nothing would come back on the VIN number. And my sister actually found the rest of the VIN number that the police couldn't find. And when I went and had this meeting with the sheriff and the guy from adia's office, I said, y'all are missing a number on this then, which is why nothing ever came back on it. And I told him I'm like, there should be a four at the end of that, and both of them looked at me, like, what are you talking about? I said that vin number that y'all are trying to search for the car of that y'all are trying to find.

11:56 I said, y'all have the wrong ven number. I said, you'll have all of it, but number, which is why it's coming back in valid or not registered. And they wrote down a fall on both of their papers. Is something that is that simple that y'all miss But I'm thirty two years old. I don't have any experience in this. And me and my sister put turns you together and found the last then number on a car that y'all should have been searching for thirty years ago. According to Danica, the only possible evidence left behind of her mother's homicide is a vehicle that she believes was used to transport her mother's body after she was killed. She hasn't had any luck with finding the vehicle and believes that if it can be located, it could provide biological evidence leading to her mother's killer. We will take a short break in return with Danica explaining the significance of locating this missing vehicle.

13:01 So tell me more about this car. What's the significance of it. So it's a card that owned when my mom went missing and when she was found dead, he was driving this car. It is believed to be the car that she was transported in when she was killed. The way that she was wrapped in the blanket, it had a hole in it, and it was a twin size blanket, and this blanket had a hole in it, and part of the blanket was pulled through that hole. Like it was used to fot her in from one location to another. It wasn't like she was wrapped in it and somebody just dumped her. This was like used as a support thing to tote her body. And they believed the Dodge Daytona was used to transport her body from wherever she was killed to wherever she was dumped. And law enforcement has been looking for the car supposedly supposedly yes, until I gave him the last number on the VN. So I don't know where the car is now. It's not registered, but I don't know if it's been crushed or if at the junkyard or whatever. But that would be our last piece because you can clean a car and you can get the blood stain out, but you'll never get rid of the traces of blood. Well, and this was nineteen ninety four, so if the body was transported in this car, then I'm sure the person who was doing it wasn't really thinking about cleaning the car. I mean, I'm sure the person was thinking about cleaning it, but knowing that there's DNA, people try to be a lot more careful about

14:35 not leaving trace evidence behind. Yes. Well, if I'm not mistaken, cars from the eighties and nineties had velvet in a lot of their cars anyways, and I'm pretty sure it was like the burgundy dark red velvet or carpet whatever it was, But I'm pretty sure the color kind of blended with the blood. So even if you were to try to spot clean it or just clean it real quick. Yeah, So in other words, you're not going to get all of the blood out because the blood's actually going to leave a stain that you can't remove. Yeah, but that's the last piece of evidence that would connect him to the murder, And we don't know where it's at.

15:16 If the sheriff wanted to look, I'm sure they could locate it, but as near the pavilion, we can't locate it. And I'm guessing that if whoever possibly killed your mother and transported, or if it was done with a car, I'm sure that if this person got rid of the car, he probably didn't go too far away to get rid of it. If he didn't sell to someone, he probably just got rid of it somewhere local, a local junkyard or scrapyard, I'm sure. And then you have to figure that there's only so many junkyards out there. How many are out there, Probably not a whole lot, maybe just a few. Well, I'm not mistaken. There's only two in Alabama and one right within a startain distance for me. So back then, I'm not even sure if all of them are open. So if you didn't have many options back then like you do now, right, and well, you know, it's possible that they may keep records. Have you contacted your local junkyards. I have not. That is a very good idea. I have not thought about that. Well, you know, it's like these landfills, these garbage companies that come and pick up your trash. Although they pick up millions of pounds of garbage, they actually keep track of where they dumped the trash from all different houses. I believe the landfills are sectored off, so if law enforcement or anybody else was looking for something specific, something say dumped in a particular dumpster at a certain area,

16:52 so it might be the same thing with a junkyard. Well, I'll be making some calls tomorrow. Well, it certainly doesn't to look I mean, based on what you're saying, the vehicle wasn't sold because there's no records of the VN number being anywhere, And if this individual didn't actually destroy the vehicle and hide it somewhere, they may have just dropped it off at a landfill or junkyard somewhere. But again, it doesn't hurt to check it out. I mean, who knows. You could get lucky in maybe someone at the junkyard or the local landfill might know something, or maybe that employee has worked there for a long time and maybe there was something distinctive that they remember about someone or that vehicle. But that's a really good idea. Well, so on the report that I got when we did run the VN number, So I wasn't going to pay to get the history or whatever. But there's only one owner reported on that car. But I didn't want to pay the twenty dollars to see who the owner was. Well, it's possible that someone up records of this vehicle. We don't really know. It's been almost thirty years, but it's definitely worth checking into. I know I would look into it. I might even look at, say not just the local junkyards or scrap yards, maybe say within twenty or thirty miles of the area where your mom's body was found. It's worth a shot. Now, does this guy that your family suspects of killing your mother, does he have any friends or

18:27 ex girlfriends or family members that are still alive that you could possibly speak to. Maybe this guy said something to a family member or close friend. And a lot of these cases, sometimes these guys will talk to someone, you know, maybe get it off your chests, or maybe just a brag that I don't know. However, something that it's messed up in ironic is this guy married a Teresa and that just doesn't sit right with me for some reason. And I don't know, it could just be you know, coincidence, whatever. But he beat my mom. There is record of that. There's a police report there. He went to jail for beating my mom and broke bones in her face. And the last words to her was I'll get you, bitch, And then when you get out of jail, she's gone.

19:18 Well, and here's something else. You know, sometimes when these guys commit a crime, they may not even tell their family member, but you know, they're incarcerated, so and if they've been incarcerated for a while, I guess they developed friendships with other inmates. And some of these criminals have been known to tell or confide in other inmates with information about the crimes they committed. And I know this does happen often because there's many cases that have been sold because of this. But the bottom line is, you know, did this guy talk to someone? And in this particular case, based on what you've told me about this guy, it really wouldn't surprise me if I learned that he had confided in someone about what he had done to your mother.

20:08 Okay, so about that. Apparently while he was in jail, he admitted to two different people he killed her, and one of those people wrote a letter to somebody on the outside dating This guy told me he took care of a female in Phoenix City, dumped no body behind a pigligally like all the details of it, and a letter to I guess a family or friend or whatever. But the police have a copy of that letter that this guy wrote to somebody outside of jail, but they won't let me see it. Well, that would be considered hearsay, but still you would think that law enforcement would be able to do something with that. Exactly, you have two different people that he admitted to while he was in jail that he killed her and dispose of the He took care of it as he fed, and he's living his best life and never had to deal with the consequences of his actions, or didn't really serve any consequences for the beating. He gave her nothing.

21:14 The battery case is still open against my mom, and I went up there to the spirit for it and I said, why she's dead. I need to get a copy of what happened, you know, the day that the report was made. I need to see the officer notes, all this stuff. But I can't see it if it's still open. It's been almost thirty years. Why is this case still open. If she's dead, you can't prove nothing. You can't charge him with anything because she is no longer here. Well, most likely if he's going to discuss his crime with a couple of fellow inmates. It's highly probable that he may have said something to an ex girl friend or possibly a friend or a relative. It sounds like this guy probably is one of those men that people to know what he did.

22:02 I mean, you do have the guys that commit crimes and they do tell people, because otherwise, what's the point of being able to get away with a crime if you can't tell someone about it. It's an ego trip and we all know that a lot of these guys have one Ted Bundy, for example, who had a bigger ego than that guy. What's hether thing is is my uncle refuses to talk to me about my mom and Kenneth will super good friends when my mom was missing. That's how my mom met was through Kenneth. And I think Kenneth knows about it, and that's why he doesn't want to talk to me about it. So you're saying that your uncle, who's your mom's brother, refuses to discuss your mom's homicide. It's kind of strange that he refuses to talk about it. I mean, especially if he won't discuss it with his own family and he refuses, he will not.

22:57 I have never talked to him, taught to him on Facebook messenger, but I've never had a compatient in person with him ever, never met him. Nothing he refuses to talk to me. Is there anyone else in your family that he might talk to? Nope. And I'm sure there's a reason behind this, yep. And you said that he was friends with this guy who you all suspect of harming your mother. He have a quite extensive criminal history. He was born in seventy and his criminal history started in nineteen eighty nine when he wrought the church, and he's been in and out of jail his whole life. So he was always mixed up with the wrong people. And the people that my mama was introduced to you were the wrong people. And that's all she really knew was people that was introduced to her, except for my dad. At this point, I was curious as to why Danika head weighted nearly thirty years to try to find out what had happened to her mother.

23:55 I often get many different answers when I make this inquiry. People will begin searching for answers immediately after a loved one is killed, while others may wait for years we will take a final break in return with what has motivated Dannicus quest for justice? Now, are there other people in your family that are trying to find out what happened to your mother? Or are you the only person that's trying to get answers right now? It's just me. It's not even me and my sister. It's just me. I'm keeping my sister in the loop, but I'm the only one that doing these meetings, is making these phone calls, it's going these places, that is doing all of this, and I'm just relying what information I get back to them. Okay, So then let me ask you this, after thirty years, why not just let it rest in peace and just move on. What is motivating you all these years later to try to find out what exactly happened to your mother?

25:12 Why now? I picked it up last year, me and my brother. Over the past two or three years, I've gotten super close and just something I've never been at ease with just letting it go. My curiosity got a little bit higher when my aunt Melissa passed away, because my outlet wasn't here anymore to bounce these questions off of, because I know she would have answered them honestly. But when my outlet was gone, I felt like I had to hyper focus and try to get some kind of answers for myself because all I have her story, She's not here to defend herself on anything story. So I felt like I needed concrete things to read about her, whether they're good or bad. I needed something for myself. I can't just listen to what people have to say because it's one sided, now, you know.

26:00 I always like to ask people why they are trying to get answers for their loved ones. I mean, I find it really interesting how people have different reactions to this question. Okay, for example, I've reached out for all the episodes that I've done. There's also been a lot of people that I have reached out to who have told me absolutely not, I don't want to do a podcast. I don't want to talk about my deceased loved one. And I ask, but can you tell me why, And they'll tell me the person's gone. We just let that person go. We just leave it up to the police. Nobody in the family wants to get involved.

26:41 And I'm thinking, well, if you leave it up to the police, it'll never get solved. And a lot of homicide cases, I think that many of them don't get solved unless there's a family member or someone else who was close to the victim who really pushes for it. And I'd like to use an example of the person I spoke to you earlier, Amanda. She was one of the first people that I ever spoke to when I started my podcast, and she's an amazing woman and somebody that I look up to and admire. I'll call her a hero she really is, because her brother was killed. Someone shot him to death, and it was a homicide in her eyes, but officially it was just ruled an accident and Tennessee law enforcement never wanted to pursue it. This happened all several years ago, and this young lady told me she would never let this go. She would keep pushing for justice. She would contact everybody that she could contact, and she would do everything humanly possible to get the man who killed her brother locked up in prison for killing her brother. And recently it happened this guy was arrested, and I recently saw a Facebook post from her where she said, finally, after all these years, I'm going to sit in a courtroom and I'm going to stare down the man who killed my brother, and I want him to know that I'm the reason why he's going to go to prison. Those are very

28:15 powerful words, and I admire that about her, you know, because she just never gave up, and she told me she would never give up, and I believed her. And I just knew that this young woman would find out who killed her brother. I knew it because I had so much faith in her. And I'm not knocking anyone that doesn't pursue anything. I mean, if you want to just let your family member rest in peace and not get involved and just let it go, I understand if that's what you want to do. But I always like to find out the motivation that makes someone want to pursue justice, or even the motivation behind someone who doesn't. The reasoning. It's night and day between people. You know. People want to get answers for different reasons, one being this was my loved one and I love this person and I'll never quit. I'll keep doing it. Or this was my friend and we grew up together and this person meant so much to me, this person did this for me, Or this person helped me when I was down and I feel like I owe them, So that's another reason.

29:22 So everybody has their own reasons, you know, either way, whether you want to do something or not. I don't judge anyone, but I just like to know people's thoughts on why they want to push for justice. The thing about doing this is if somebody happened to follow you, or has someone happened to listen to your stuff that would know something and didn't know who to contact or you know who to reach out to, it could spark that one person. What's interesting about podcasts is that a lot of people listen to them. You really only need one person with a solid lead, something that law enforcement can act upon, and you just never know where that one person is. You just have to find that person, like like damn, I know about that right, and you only need that one person because again, a lot of people like to listen to podcasts, and there's people that watch true crime shows and a lot of them have actually been solved by people who have either listened to a podcast or watched something about a criminal on a true crime program. I'll give you a good example. I'm a big fan of John Walsh, and for many years he's been profiling criminals that are on the run. And I think about all the people that he's captured with his program.

30:55 I believe he's probably helped capture over one hundred different people. And if you think about it, if not for America's Most Wanted, I'm sure a lot of the guys that he profiled would still be running the streets. I can remember the first time I ever saw the show was back in nineteen eighty eight or nineteen eighty nine, where John Walsh profiled John List, and I've never forgotten that story. Are you familiar with John List? I'm not. Well. John List was this psychopath who killed this entire family. He killed his mother, his wife, and his children. He shotted him to death, and then he lined their bodies up side by side by side, and then he split and no one ever saw him again. John Walsh did the story about John List, and then they had someone do a bust of him of what he would look like based on age progression technologology, and they showed this and I'm going to say that within months of that episode airing, someone recognized List a neighbor, I believe. And the thing was, although he had left and been gone for all these years, his habits were still the same. He was an accountant when they found him, he was doing accounting work, which he had always done. He was a Lutheran, so he

32:29 continued the same faith as a Lutheran. Even though he was gone for so many years, he still maintained the same type of life. And he did this throughout the time that he was on the run. So eventually someone called in who recognized him, and sure enough was John List, and he was living under an alias. He was captured and sent to prison, and he eventually died in prison. But he did get away with killing his family for many years. Wow. So had it not been for John Walsh profiling lists on America's most wanted lists, probably would have gotten away with killing his family.

33:14 I doubt if he would have ever got captured because no one knew about John List or the story. I've never heard of it, and neither had anyone else in America, not really, except for probably the law enforcement department that originally handled the case. But he had been gone for so many years that I'm sure that law enforcement probably assumed that he was dead. But this episode was profiled about him, and the public got to see who this guy was in this case. It only took a few people who recognized him which led to him being captured. Like you said, podcasts are, they're starting to be really, really popular and a lot of people like the true crime, the homicide and the mystery behind it. So if this conversation right here, this podcast is to reach one, just one person that it could possibly know something, then you've done more than you could ever probably do for me.

34:10 Yes, And it's just a matter of getting your mother's story out there. All you need is the right person to hear it. But what I find sad about your mother's case is that there is nothing about it. There was just that one little tiny article of your mother's homicide and it was probably what three paragraphs long, and that's it. If that's all you have, you're not going to find very many people that know anything. So now tell me, if anyone has any information about your mom's case and they're listening to this, who do they need to call if they know anything? What police apartment is handling your mother's case. It would be Russell County Sheriff's office.

34:55 And that's an Alabama correct, Yes, it's an Alabama. And are you using any type of social media to help people learn about your mother's case. No, no, no, how no, I have not used social media platform yet. When I went and met with the sheriff every Musta County, he said to hold off posting through the Project Cold Case. He said to hold off for them posting on Facebook and on that because we might spook somebody, which doesn't make any sense to me. Well, I will definitely have to respectfully disagree with the sheriff's department there. I mean, they've had this case for thirty years. What do you mean they're going to spook someone?

35:35 Who are you going to spook after thirty years? At this point doesn't really matter. And one of the things that I always tell people that I talked to is that social media it's just another tool. And I find it interesting that there are law enforcement departments that don't use it, and there are also some that do use it. But why wouldn't you use it? Why not put something out about a case on your Facebook page? You just never know who's going to see it. And that's why I always recommend that, if nothing else, just put up a Facebook page about your loved one. You can also request tips through your page and then people will tell me, well, yeah, but I don't really have a lot of information, or what if I don't have enough to put on my page. Well, the solution is fairly simple. You don't have to just put your family members information on there. I'm sure there's plenty of other cases in your local area, in the same area where your mother was killed, other unsolved cases. You can share those stories. You can share stories from different areas of the country.

36:43 You can help bringing attention to other people's cases other than your mom's. And you just put out fresh content as the bottom line and invite people to participate, look at pictures, and like I said, the more people who visit your page and return, the better the chances are that you'll find the right person that knows something. Because another thing that's good about social media is people like to share. So someone sees something about your mom and they know nothing about it, they may feel free to share it on their Facebook page and ask people on their page to share it. So it's not unusual for a story to go viral. And then you also have producers and other podcasters that come across these stories and they may reach out to you to put the episode on say I D Discovery or maybe another podcaster will want to do an episode about your mother. But unfortunately, right now, it's a typical podcaster can't do anything about your mother's case because there's nothing about it. There's no information about her case. So the only way that they could get any information would be to speak to you. So if they wanted to speak to you, they could go through your page and contact you. So, you know, social media could really help your mom's case and push it forward, and I always suggest people do it. There's no reason not to do it. It's free. You can put it on Twitter, you can put it on TikTok.

38:15 These platforms are all free, so there's no reason not to use social media. Yeah, that's definitely a good idea. So it would probably be a good idea for you sometime down the road to just go ahead and put together a basic Facebook page and just invite people to learn about your mother's story. I think that was a scare tactic. Well. I've spoken to many other people who have told me that law enforcement has encouraged them not to put the story on social media or not to ask the public for help. I really don't understand why any law enforcement agency would do that. I mean maybe if it's the first couple of weeks or first couple of months of something happening.

39:00 But in your mother's case, we're talking about it happened thirty years ago. They've had plenty of time to catch this guy and they haven't. So it's not like anything you do is going to hinder any type of investigation. After thirty years, What are you going to hinder? Who are you going to spook? Maybe you'll get someone talking and someone will say something stupid thirty years later, and that would be good. You don't know who's going to listen. You don't know who's going to react. There's no reason for you not to ask the public to help you out if they know anything. Okay, And with that being said, my final question for you would be for anyone out there that's listening to this podcast, if they happen to know anything about what happened to your mother, what would you say to that person or persons if they knew about it. I wish they would have came forward, regardless of what they were scared of, because they could have put a very dangerous man behind bars. But saying that, I do understand being scared because I've been in that situation. However, I just hate that her four kids never got answers, They never had a piece of mind, they never had closure, nothing. We've been handed an empty box and I'm trying to fill it with as much as i can while I can. But if anybody did know anything, or does know anything, it's not too late. And this concludes the story of Teresa Alone Morris, who was killed nearly thirty years ago.

40:36 She never had a chance to truly be a mother or create any memories with her children. She had the first of her four children at fifteen. She would eventually be found dead behind a Piggy Wiggly store in Ladonia, Alabama, on April twenty eighth, nineteen ninety four. Unfortunately, her four children have no memories of their mother. Teresa's daughter, Dannika Hovey, has stepped up and decided that she wants to find out who killed her mother and why. There was biological evidence left behind at one time, most likely, but it wasn't maintained and eventually discarded. Dannika faces an uphill battle in her quest.

41:19 There is no evidence, as she has said that law enforcement won't provide her with any useful information. Do you know who killed this young mother of four back in nineteen ninety four. If you have any information about this unsolved thomicide, please contact the Russell County Sheriff's Apartment in Phoenix City, Alabama at three three four two eight six five three five. I will also be sure to provide this information in the case story notes. And if you are a parent, law enforcement official, friend, or relative seeking justice for an unsolved thomicide case, please visit my website and complete the contact form. You can also to contact with your Facebook. Thank you for listening