Episode 180: Theresa Lynn Morris (Part 1 of 2)
Theresa Lynn Morris was a Phenix City, Alabama mother of four who was found deceased behind a Piggly Wiggly in Ladonia, Alabama on April 28, 1994. There wasn’t much left of her. Her head was missing and it appeared the remains were likely scattered by...
Theresa Lynn Morris was a Phenix City, Alabama mother of four who was found deceased behind a Piggly Wiggly in Ladonia, Alabama on April 28, 1994. There wasn’t much left of her. Her head was missing and it appeared the remains were likely scattered by animals. She had been missing since April 2nd before she was found deceased. She was only 21 years old when she died, but her entire life had been troubled. According to her daughter Danica Hovey, she had her first child at 15 and was sexually abused as child.
Theresa was born in California on October 18th, 1972. Her mother parents were Diane Pulaski and William Morris. Theresa was the middle child of three. She has an older brother named Kenneth and a younger sister named Melissa who recently passed away.
Unfortunately, other than a tiny newspaper article in an Alabama newspaper article there is no information about Theresa. Theresa’s story deserves to receive as much media coverage as anyone else’s. And since her case has been mostly forgotten, it reduces the chances her killer will ever be arrested.
Theresa was the mother of four children who lost their mother when they were young. So, none of them have any memories of spending Mother’s Day with her or even celebrating birthdays, holidays or even sitting around the family dinner table having a nice dinner together. Unfortunately, someone took her life and has denied her children of creating any memories with her.
For Theresa’s story, I spoke to her daughter Danica Hovey. This is the first half of a two-part story. Please be sure to listen to the conclusion next week. If you have any information about this unsolved homicide, please contact the Russell County Sheriff’s department in Phenix City, Alabama at 334-298-6535.
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0:13 Hello, and welcome to the Catch My Killer Podcast. Thank you for listening. My name is Mark. For nearly eight years, I've written a weekly newspaper column about true crimes and missing people for the Claremont Sun newspaper in Ohio. With the column and podcast, my objective has always been to try to bring attention to the cases that haven't received much media attention, if any. This week's story involves a twenty one year old Alabama woman named Teresa Lynn Miller, who was found dead and wrapped up in a blanket behind the Piggly Wiggly store in Ladonia, Alabama, on April twenty eighth, nineteen ninety four.
0:55 The young mother of four had vanished on April second, nineteen four. Her homicide has remained unsolved for nearly thirty years. This is the first part of a two part story. Be sure to listen to the conclusion next week. Teresa Lynn Miller was a Phoenix City, Alabama mother of four who was found deceased behind a Piggy Wiggly and Ladonia, Alabama, on April twenty eighth, nineteen ninety four. There wasn't much left of her once she was found, and what did remain of her was likely scattered by animals. She had been missing since April second before she was found deceased. Teresa Lynn Miller was only twenty one years old when she died, but her entire life had been troubled.
1:56 According to her daughter Danica, she had her first child at fifteen and was also sexually abused as a child. Teresa was born in California on October eighteenth, nineteen seventy two. Her parents were Diane Pulaski and William Morris. According to her daughter Danica, it was unknown whether or not William Morris was actually her biological father. Teresa was the middle child of three. She has an older brother named Kenneth and a younger sister named Melissa, who recently passed away. Unfortunately, other than a tiny newspaper article in an Alabama newspaper, there is no information about Teresa's death, and that is a major issue with telling her story and many of the stories that I share. There are videos, news coverage, and other information that I can share about the victim's story, and for stories like Teresa's, these are the reasons why do this podcast.
2:58 Teresa's story deserves to receive as much media coverage as anyone else's, and since her case has been mostly forgotten, it reduces the chances that her killer will ever be arrested. Teresa was the mother of four children who lost her mother when they were young, so none of them have any warm memories of spending Mother's Day with her, or even celebrating birthdays, holidays, or even just sitting around the family dinner table having a nice dinner. Unfortunately, someone took her life and has denied her children of creating any memories with their mother. Teresa's daughter, Danica his contacted law enforcement and tried to find out what happened to her mother nearly thirty years ago. Over time, biological evidence was discarded and she doesn't have many people who can speak to her about her mother's final moments alive, she was able to connect with the man who found her mother's body. Unfortunately, he wasn't able to provide any useful information for Teresa's story. I spoke to her daughter, Danneka Hovey. This is the first half of a two part story. Please be sure to listen to the conclusion next week and now on with Teresa's story is told by her daughter, Dannika Hovey. My mom was born in California October eighteenth, nineteen seventy two.
4:27 Her mother is Diane Pulaski and her dad is William Morris, although that'slictit on her birth certificate. Paternity was never established, so one hundred percent we don't know if William Marph is her father. She is the middle child gather little sister my aunt Melissa Melissa Culster, that passed away a few years ago, and she has an older brother, Kenneth Coulster. I was three year old when she died. I do not remember anything about her. My older sister was four, and then my younger sister is eleven months younger than me, so we were real little when she died. So including you, your mother had four children, is that correct? Yeah? And my little brother with three month old when she died. Her body was found April twenty eight, Noney four behind the pig Wiggly in Ladonia. Now I'm familiar with what a pigley wiggly is because I've spent time down in the southern areas of the country.
5:20 So for people who live up north who don't know what a piggly wiggly is, can you please explain to them. What exactly a piggly wiggly is? A pig wiggly is a grocery store by Lewis Jones or a Walmart shopping that that are just for groceries. They're more Southern than they are northern. But they're starting to close down as the years go by. There used to be a lot of them, but now there's not so many of them. Now. What used to be the pig wiggly if now a key bone they call, so it is no longer a piggwiggly anymore. I have been in touch with the gentleman that found her body. I'm going to respect his private it not his name. He worked at Asilegally at the time. He was the one that felled the foul odor and went back there and found her in the wooded area, wrapped in a blanket. I just got in contact with them a few weeks ago after a year of thirsting for trying to contact people, and by the grace of God, I got another incident report printed and his number had updated on the incident report and I was able to contact him.
6:27 And he cried his eyes out when I went out at of them, because I looked just like my mom. So your mom was killed, or at least her body was found in Phoenix City, Alabama. Is that correct? Yeah? So where her body was found, and is that where you and your siblings all lived at the time, you all lived in Phoenix City. Yeah, So the address that him the death certificate and the address that found all the paperwork, court documents that I found. She lived around twentieth three, which I know Europe in on high and I'm in Georgia, but it walking distant from the Pigligly, It's not too far, so we're talking like three or fourth street between her how or where she was staying and then where her body was found. Now, at the time of your mother's death, where was she living? Was she staying with your dad, a boyfriend, another relative? Can you tell me about that? So my older sister, Patricia has a different dad. So Patricia's dad is Tommy. Me and my sister Brandy have the same dad, Walter, and then my little brother, his dad is Robert. At the time, my mom was involved with Robert. So on the day that she disappeared, did she have plans to go to the Piggly Wiggly. Is that what happened? She had either gone there to shop or was it more like someone chilled her and then just dumped her body back there. She was kicked out of my aunt how on April
7:58 second, after she was staying with and she was last in April second, and then she was reported missing on April twentieth. Well, the missing persons report was filed on the twentieth. They never stated if it was before that or not, but the missing person's report was closed and never followed up on. But on April twenty eighth when they found her body. So d fact actually hacked custody of me and my sister. She had lost custody of my older sister and she had lost custody of my younger brother d fact, because my dad was in and out. My mom really didn't want my dad any of the dads involved, so my dad didn't know that his kids were in the system. So when my dad found that out on March tenth, he went down and filed the cool custody. On March seventeenth, they had a court date set up for April six and she never showed. She was in court on March twenty third for the custody hearing from my little brother and was supposed to go back April eighteenth to get custody back. Of course she didn't show so there was an eyewitness which I believe he had passed away the thing with Abrat Miller, that had seen her on April four at the Zippy Mark by my aunt's house where she was kicked out. So between April four and April foot when she didn't show up for court, something happened to her.
9:16 We don't know if she was parting, We don't know if she had friends. The thing is she only got to a gray education. She was effectually abused. Ifunt tell she the thirteenth, she had been in trouble. I found out that there's a child cruelty case. She beat my older sister because my sister trying to push me off the bed. She went to jail for it. They put her on probation, but then she got in trouble a year and a half later for shot with him from Kmart and she was supposed to serve time in jail, but never did. So my mom was in a little bit of trouble. She didn't live a perfect life. She was epileptic, she was on two different feasire medicine. She was very troubled mental illness. It runs real deep on my mom out of the family every generation.
10:01 The aid thought. She did attempt through if out A few times. She was in a treatment finner a few times in a few different places. I know Fort Payne, Alabama with one play. The Bradley Finner was another. She went to the medical thinner. So she did have suicidal tendency. And I don't know if she was ever medicated for any of that. I don't know if she ever got the proper help. I don't know if she ever got the proper help for the sexual assault. So all of this at a young age developed into problems when you're an adult. So her kids ended up suffering. Not only did we have different dads, but our dads weren't allowed to be involved in our lives because I'm pretty sure she was scared of men per se. Didn't stop her from being curious and reproducing with people.
10:43 But she was nineteen when she had her fourth kid. Mind you, there is an extra kid. I have a sister that passed away when she was born. She was full term, and this was between Brandy and Stephen, so there was to be a fifth kid, but she died. We don't know the cause, but I have done that what kind of set off the downward spiral. I lost the kid when I was sixth month fragmant, and that's a pain that it's very hard to live with. So along with the mental health not being taken care of, all the abuse, losing a kid, getting in trouble for child cruelty. She went to jail for shoplifting. She was leading this life and in trouble, and a lot of it fell back to Robert Bush. He is Stephen's father from the story I've been told, he actually went to jail for beating her. Their eyewitnesses to the result of the beating broke bones in her faith. He was charged with that and his last word to my mom before he went to jail back to jail was I will get you be at h That was his last words to her.
11:50 He was in jail from February twenty fifth until April four. She was last seeing April four. According to Danica, one of Teresa's exes threatened to harm her before he was incarcerated. Their relationship involved domestic violence. We will take a brief break in return with Dannika's thoughts on what happened to her mother after she disappeared on April fourth, nineteen ninety four. And what can you tell me about Robert, her ex, the one she was involved with the domestic abuse relationship? Is he still alive today? He is, and he lived close to me. Have you ever contacted him or does your brother keep in touch with his dad? I had never nobody has ever had any contact with him after my mom went missing and then when they found her body. But Stephen quote mom that adopted him, that was who had custody of them at a time because she kept custody after my mama found So Stephen had his set of parents. My dad got us, and then my grandmother ended up getting my oldest sister, Patricia, and we kind of lived separately except for me and Brandy. We will all live separately. So we didn't know each other until we got older. So I want to say between thirteen and fifteen,
13:26 Tricia became a part of our life, and then it wasn't until my brother was twenty three twenty four when he became a consistent part of my life. So we were all grown or getting grown before we actually got to know each other. Me and Brandy grew up together, so that was the only sibling I ever had grown up. Of course, my dad had a son with another woman. Are you when your three siblings close today? We are. We grew apart. We didn't really get along so much when we were growing up. But that's my sister. I'll go to bat four any day. And now, your mom, she was threatened before she was found dead, isn't that correct? I mean she's threatened and then she turns up dead shortly after. Yeah, so what is your mother's official cause of death? What did the coroner rule? There is no cause of death. It's listed as undetermined circumstances. I read the coroner's report. She was decapitated. Her head was not attached to her body. She was missing her shoulder on the left side down, her whole armor gone. There was thirty two and a half pounds of her left when they found her. That's how long she was out there. The corner's report says four to sixth leaks. She was out in the woods and eating upon by animals and decomposed. And all of this I've done read at all. I don't have a picture of them on painted anymore.
14:48 There's all just facts. So you're telling me that you don't know if her killer actually decapitated her or if her head was removed because of animal activity. I guess you really don't know, do you, And neither does the coroner. Nope. They seem to think that maybe somebody slid her throat and that's where the animals started. They can't prove that because she was out there for so long. But of course a body out in the wood, especially with a changing seasons, it's not going to take much time at offer. Animals to be at tried to smell whatever it is. So we don't exactly know how long she was out there. The corners of for it says four to six weeks, but I also read a little investigator notice it said a week. So we're looking at one week versus four to six. But that's a huge gap. Yeah, that is most certainly a large gap in time, and it doesn't make any sense. And I can never understand how you can say one week and then you say four to six. It has to be one or the other. There's a different, a huge difference in one of the other Absolutely at Lee and who reported her missing, they will not give me a copy of the missing person's report. But if I'm not mistaken, my aunt Melissa is the one that reported her missing. She was supposed to come get her stuff because Matt Missa kicked her out. I don't know why she was kicked out, but she was supposed to come to get from her stuff and she never did it, just sat on most of the front
16:19 port. And after a few weeks went by, is when they knew something was wrong. And when she didn't show up report for her kid, that's when they knew if something was wrong. And your aunt Melissa the one you were able to lean on. She's now deceased. Is that correct? Yeah, she passed away a few years ago. Okay, And what kind of a relationship did you have with your aunt Melissa? Sounds like you had a great relationship with her too for clothes. As soon as she was able to get into my life, I clung on to her like there was no other person. She was the closest thing I had to my mom. That was the closest connection. I'm not close to my grandmother. I really prefer not to call her my grandmother. Her name is Diane. But my Analyssa was a saint. She was just an upbeat, bright person. And I'm sure that you probably had a lot of questions about your mom. For your aunt, Melissa, based on your aunt's thoughts about your mom, how did she describe her mom? Tell me about that fearless, She loved life, she loved her kids. She wasn't the perfect person. She never painted a picture of her mom being perfect. But she did say that my mom made mistake but she did love her kids, She loved life, she was adventurous, she had a big heart. I mean, just a lot of good things.
17:45 But she did make sure to embed in my head that she did make mistakes. She was human and she wasn't perfect, and she did learn from a lot of her mistakes. You knowing, It just doesn't only sound like your mother really had much of an opportunity to really live. She was only twenty one when she died, correct, I mean twenty one. That's fairly young. One twenty one. That means that her life was essentially over before it even began. I wouldn't even really call it much of a life, would you. Nope. You know, here's something that I've learned about life.
18:27 When you're young, you make a lot of mistakes we all do, but fortunately for a lot of us, like me, for example, I was able to somehow survive a lot of stupidity. I did a lot of stupid things in my past, and I look back and sometimes I wonder how the hell I'm even alive today. I mean, I've said that to my best friend. He and I used to do really stupid stuff when we were youngsters, and we're both in our fifties now, and we've both somehow made it. I have no idea how we were able to overcome being such idiots back in the day, but we somehow managed, because I can honestly say I've really done some stupid, reckless things in the past where I could have easily gotten killed, but somehow, by the grace of God, I'm still here. Yeah. You know, it's always been said that to grow old and wise, you have to be young and stupid, and that's true because you learn from your mistakes. And I realize that your mother, she did make some mistakes when she was young. But what makes me feel bad about her story is that she never got an opportunity to overcome them. She didn't get the opportunity to learn and get wise from her mistakes and then straighten them out, and had she overcome her issues, that she would have had an
20:00 opportunity to get to know her four children and get to know her grandchildren. But she was denied that chance because of someone else's selfishness in taking her life. I find that truly sad and troubling. Oh yeah, By this time, you've heard Dannika discuss the hardships that her mother experienced during her youth. She was sexually abused and gave birth to her first child at fifteen years old. She had also gotten into trouble for abusing one of her children and for shoplifting. We will take a final break and return with Danica's final thoughts about her mother for this episode. So, listening to you describe your mother's story, it sounds like she really had a traumatic life. She was sexually abused, she got pregnant at a very early age. She had her first child when she was fifteen, and then by the time she was twenty one, she already had four children. And that can be really rough on someone.
21:19 I mean, being so young and having to take her four children. So she really had a whole lot of things going on in her young life, and it sounds like she really didn't get a chance to really get a taste of life. No, she had her first kid fifteen, so she didn't even get to go through her teenage years. Really, I mean, she didn't get a chance to grow up. She was forced because of the fixture abuse up until the ague was thirteen and she started acting out. She dropped by to school in eighth grade. She had her first kid fifteen, so that's the beginning of her life right now. Wait a minute, I just thought of something. You said that she had her first child when she was fifteen. That means she was pregnant most likely when she was fourteen. Is that right? Yes, she had turned fifteen dot October and my sister was born in December. Okay, So howell was the dad? Was this consensual?
22:25 Was he also a teenager? Was this statutory rape or what was the situation at the time. I am not one hundred percent sure how old he is, but I know it was consensual. I know they were actually a couple like together, and he did she did love Tricia's dad. Still, even if it's consensual, a child can't give consent. Oh I know, Yeah, I live in Ohio, where the consensual age is sixteen, and I imagine that's probably what it is in a lot of other states. Same here. Well, my mom was sixteen when my dad was with her, so I mean that me and my sister, she was over fifteen whenever she had me and my sister. But at getting pregnant at fourteen and having a kid at fifteen, like, it makes you wonder, It really does, but that's the life that she was used to. Well, yeah, and I can remember growing up back in the day when I was pretty young at the time, I had a couple of friends that were I believe we're probably both about fifteen, and I think she got pregnant around that time and may have had her first child when she was fifteen or sixteen, but they were both under age. They were both teenagers, so there was never any issue with that, and they got married. It just got me thinking when you told me that your mom had her first baby at fifteen, and that tells me that she was probably pregnant at fourteen, So I was wondering if this was something that would have been legally considered statutory rape. But then I don't
24:00 know how old the father was. But you said, it was something that she was used to, and if she was being sexually abused at an early age, maybe this was something that she had accepted as a fact of life or a fact of her life. But it was just something that I was just really curious about. It was never reported as inappropriate or rape or anything like that. What I'm hearing or what I've heard, it was her doing. You know, all the relationships were through her brother except for my dad. She met every man that she had been with through my uncle, which has messed up. All these men were older than her. She was born in seventy two, my dad was born in sixty nine, so they're not too far apart in age. But the only person that my mom didn't meet through her brother was my dad. My dad was the only outside person and didn't associate with anybody, didn't associate with Kenneth or Robert, nobody, So it was kind of weird. So tell me about I know your brother and your sisters probably have conversations about your mom, and I would guess that you all probably have a general idea of who may have killed her. Have you all come to a consensus on this? Is there somebody that you all think may have harmed your mother. After asking Danica about a potential suspect being involved and killing her mother, she told me that her and her siblings have an
25:33 idea that they know who did this. However, the police have never officially named anyone as a suspect, so I have bleeped out the name for privacy reasons. Yes, the people that I talked to, close family, people that knew her, every single person believed it was that killed her end up her body. She was killed at a residence and her body was dumbed. And at this point, I don't care who hears this. Well, it's a known fact that whenever someone gets murdered, most of the time it's not by a stranger. It's often a boyfriend, girlfriend, husband, or some type of significant other that committed the crime. I mean that during investigation, I know that law enforcement usually starts with the family and then works its way outward. What I find interesting is that I have spoken to so many different people. I mean easily over a hundred people that I've interviewed, and a lot of times when I talk to them after I'm done with the recording.
26:45 I'll talk to people after we're done recording because I don't want to put those private thoughts on the podcast. Those are just something that I share with that individual. And one of the questions that I'll ask is does the family have an idea of who committed this crime? In a lot of times, the family will most of the time, you know, unless it's a hit and run or something along those lines, the family will basically just say, yeah, we know who did it, and the cops know who did it. The only problem is we can't prove it. Otherwise that person would be in prison right now. So I find it more surprising when a family tells me that they don't know who did it than when they tell me they do know who did it. Oh really. The messed up part is so she was found and closed. She didn't have any hand towear on. She had a braw a T shirt and panton. She was wrapped in a blanket and that with a jacket that was located near her but wasn't like on her person.
27:45 Before the full Corners report came back, before the toxological report came back, before that even came back, they had sent all the evidence with her body to the funeral home, and the n't home disposed of it because it was biohazard. So they don't even have any evidence to test for DNA anymore because they got rid of it before the case was even closed. Well now it's pending. They can't give me a straight answer if it's open, closed or pending. I've gotten three different answers from three different people. That must have been a major blow to the case. And there's a high probability that there was DNA or fingerprints or some type of genetic evidence on your mom's body or the clothing. And without those pieces of evidence, then it definitely would have hindered the police's investigation. And had they stored it properly and kept it, they could have tested that. With the way technology have come now, they could have taken that out of evidence and test it to see if there was DNA on it. But now they can't. And I didn't know that.
28:56 I just found that out. I thought they had this evidence walked away somewhere and we could pull it out and I know it might take some time, but get them to retest it. And then I find out. I read the report and everything was signed over to the funeral home. So I called McMullan, which is a local funeral home here. I called them to see if they could pull the report because it said that if the clothes were sent with her in the body bag, that it would have been buried with her. I was going to pay to get her body exumed, to get that stuff out of there and to get it tested. Yeah, I was going to ask you about getting her exumed. So maybe there is some type of evidence that remained behind, or do you think there's a chance that there's anything that could be useful. It wouldn't help her. There wasn't enough of her left to get a rape kid or I mean, there wasn't enough of her, And that's the messed up part. I think that's really a shame.
29:53 But I think back in ninety four that DNA was still in the stages of early development, So I'm not thinking that a lot of police departments were thinking about storing things and instead they just found it easier to just dispose of evidence. I don't really know how it works out with different police departments, but I've heard stories that some kept items even back from the eighties because they figured there might be some type of advances and technology, while others just went ahead disposed of the items. I don't think there was a set standard among every police department in the country, as you know. I don't think there ever has been. I think they just all do whatever it is they do.
30:44 Yeah, but if you're going to say you're investigating something of a murder, common sense would tell you we need to hang on to this because this case is a murder investigation, not a suicide or an accident. Why keep it open all these years? Well, you'd be surprised how uncommon common senses these days, not with just law enforcement, but just people in general. You ain't never lied. And where are your mom's remains today? You said she's buried. Do you live near the area where she was buried? So the state paid for her burial. She is buried in town. I have not been to her grave have a marker on it. It doesn't have a headstone or anything. I wouldn't see the point if those things were buried with her, I would seriously look into getting her body boomed and getting that evident out of there. But since they disposed of it, there's no point. I'm not going to disturb what left of her to try to prove a point when it's not going to do many good. Now, how did you find out about the evidence being disposed of? Did law enforcement tell you this or did you learn this from the funeral home? The police report that I read stated that they signed it over and then I called McMullin. They poured her file and it says that they disposed of her stuff because it was considered a biohazard.
32:07 So to me, it really sounds like you're truly stuck behind the proverbial eight paul in your mother's case because you don't have any evidence. You don't have anything, so you really don't have a good starting place to find out what happened to your mother. But I would suggest that even though you don't have that much to go on, that you still keep up with the police and see which you can find out on your own. I can tell you one of the very first interviews that I ever did when I first started this podcast several years ago, the young lady I interviewed was trying to get justice for her brother because her brother's death was ruled an accident, if I recall, and she told me several years ago, I'm not gonna let this go until I find out what happened to my brother and his killer goes to prison while low and behold. She just put up a recent post that the person who shot her brother to death has been arrested and charged with the murder of her brother. So she's never let go, and she told me several years ago she's going to keep going till she gets justice. So it's taken her while to have this success because it's taken her years because her brother's been de ceased for a while. So if you're really determined to find out what happened to your mother, then I think it's just something that you're gonna have to stick it out no matter how long it takes, because it could be a
33:40 very lengthy process for you to ever find out what truly happened to her. But she was your mother, and I'm sure to you it's worth it to wait. Whatever time you spend and trying to find out what happened to her, it will all come down to being worth it if you're able to get the truth. That's them me. For the past three weeks, I had an appointment with the sheriff over Murphall County, which is in Alabama where her death happened, and I sat down with the guy from the DA's office, and I was explaining to them my questions, my concerned dates that didn't match up. So there's one piece of evidence less somewhere unless it's been crushed or disposed of whatever. But there's a car out there somewhere that was reported that was driving and could have possibly been involved with her murder. And I actually had to get with my sister to find this car because nothing would come back on the VEN number. And my sister actually found the rest of the VIN number that the police couldn't find. And when I went and had this meeting with the sheriff and the guy from the d office, I said, y'all are missing a number on this then, which is why nothing ever came back on it. And I told him I was black. There should be a four at the end of that. And both of them looked at me, like, what are you talking about. I said that then number that y'all are trying to search for the car that y'all are trying to find. I
35:14 said, y'all have the wrong VEN number. I said, you'll have all of it but one number, which is why it's coming back invalid or not registered. And they wrote down the flour on both of their papers, like something that is that's simple that y'all missed. But I'm thirty two years old. I don't have any experience in this. And me and my sister put turns you together and found the last VIN number on a car that y'all should have been searching for thirty years ago. So tell me more about this car. What's the significance of it? So it's the card that owned when my mom went missing, and when she was found dead, he was driving this car. It is believed to be the card that she was transported in when she was killed. The way that she was wrapped in the blanket, it had a hole in it and part of the it was a twin five blanket, and the blanket had a hole in it, and part of the blanket would poured through that hole. Like it was used to tote her in from one location to another. It wasn't like she was wrapped in it and Toby just dumped her. This was like used as a support thing to tote her body. And they believed the Dodge Daytona was used to transport her body from wherever she was killed to wherever she was dumped and law enforcement has been looking for the car supposedly. Supposedly, yes, until I gaped him the last number on the vent. So I don't know where the car is now.
36:35 It's not registered, but I don't know if it's been crushed or if at the junkyard or whatever. But that would be our last piece, because you can clean a car and you can get the blood stain out, but she'll never get rid of the trace of the blood. Well, and this one nineteen ninety four, So if the body was transported in this car, then I'm sure the person who was doing it was really thinking about cleaning the car. I mean, I'm sure the person will think about cleaning it, but knowing that there's DNA, people try to be a lot more careful about not leaving trace evidence behind. Yeah. Well, if I'm not mistaken, cars from the eighties and nineties had velvet in a lot of their cars anyways, And I'm pretty sure it was like a burgundy dark red velvet or carpet whatever it was. But I'm pretty sure the color kind of blended with the blood.
37:34 So even if you were to try to spot clean it or to clean it real quick. Yeah, So in other words, you're not going to get all of the blood out because the blood's actually going to leave a stain that you can't remove. Yeah, but that's the last piece of evidence that would connect him to the murder. And we don't know where it's at. I'm at the sheriff wanted to look. I'm sure they could locate it, but as near the pavilion, we can't locate it. And I'm guessing that if whoever possibly killed your mother and transported her, if it was done with a car, I'm sure that if this person got rid of the car, he probably didn't go too far away to get rid of it. If he didn't sell to someone, he probably just got rid of it somewhere local, a local junkyard or scrapyard, I'm sure. And this concludes the first half of Teresa's story. Please listen to the conclusion next week. Who killed Teresa Lynn Miller? Nearly thirty years ago, she never had a chance to truly be a mother or create any memories with her children. She had the first of her four children at fifteen. She would eventually be found dead behind a Piggy Wiggly store in Ladonia, Alabama, on April twenty eighth, nineteen ninety four. Unfortunately, her four children have no memories of their mother. Teresa's daughter, Dannikahove, has stepped up decided that she wants to find out who killed her mother and why. There was biological evidence left behind at one time
39:07 most likely, but it wasn't maintained and eventually discarded. Danica faces an uphill battle in her quest. There is no evidence, as she has said that law enforcement won't provide her with any useful information. Do you know who killed this young mother of four back in nineteen ninety four? If you have any information about this unsolved thomicide, please contact the Russell County Sheriff's Apartment in Phoenix City, Alabama at three three four two nine eight six five three five. I will also be sure to provide this information in the case story notes. And if you are a parent, law enforcement official, friend, or relative seeking justice for an unsolved thomicide case, please visit my website and complete the contact form. You can also contact me through Facebook. Thank you for listening.
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