Episode 178: Tiffany Whitton (Part 2 of 2)
Tiffany Whitton was born on January 30,1987 in Kennesaw, Georgia. As Tiffany got older, her life began to spiral out of control. She stole from her family and friends and became a habitual liar. Tiffany’s teenage years were a struggle. She became...
Tiffany Whitton was born on January 30,1987 in Kennesaw, Georgia. As Tiffany got older, her life began to spiral out of control. She stole from her family and friends and became a habitual liar. Tiffany’s teenage years were a struggle. She became rebellious and quit high school during her sophomore year of high school.
Tiffany began heavily using drugs like OxyContin and worked at different waitress jobs. She also began shoplifting at Walmart regularly. In March of 2011, while living in Dalton, Georgia, Tiffany, was arrested and charged for a home invasion. Tiffany received a prison sentence in 2012. By this time, tension had grown so intense between Tiffany and her mother that Lisa had to practice tough love. She told Tiffany she was done with her daughter until she gave up drugs and her criminal activities. Lisa had hoped this would be the wakeup call Tiffany needed to overcome her troubles and become a responsible mother.
After Tiffany’s release, she would meet and begin dating a single father named Ashley “Red” Caudle. The couple began using crystal meth and other drugs. Friends of the couple described the relationship as toxic and troubled. The two fought regularly.
On September 12, 2013, the couple went to a friend’s home to do drugs. After leaving the friend’s home around midnight, the two arrived at a Marietta, Georgia Walmart at 1 a.m. After an hour, loss prevention employees became suspicious of Tiffany and watched her closely on security cameras.
The couple went to pay for some items at 2 a.m. Although Caudle paid for his items, Tiffany had attempted to steal $20 worth of merchandise.
Loss prevention employees approached and attempted to apprehend Tiffany. One of the employees grabbed Tiffany’s bag. She slid her arm out of the bag, kicked off her flip flops and ran away.
The loss prevention employees didn’t attempt to pursue her. Security cameras captured Tiffany running away from the store. She has never been seen again. The entire incident was capture on video and can be seen online. Tiffany has never been seen again.
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0:13 Hello, and welcome to the Catch My Killer Podcast. Thank you for listening. My name is Mark. For nearly eight years, I've written a weekly newspaper column about true crimes and missing people for the Claremont Sun newspaper in Ohio. With the column and podcast, my objective has always been to try to bring attention to the cases that haven't received much media attention, if any at all. This week's story involves a troubled young Georgia woman named Tiffany Witten. She had many interpersonal demons that she was battling, and to make matters even worse, Tiffany had become involved in alto relationship with a man with an extensive criminal record. His name is Ashley Read Coddle. During the early morning hours of September thirteenth, twenty thirteen, the couple went shopping at a Walmart in Marietta, Georgia. Tiffany had shoplifted some merchandise and was apprehended by Walmart loss prevention staff as she was leaving. Tiffany managed to get away and ran out of the front door and into the parking lot. She has never been seen again. This is the conclusion of a two part story. Please go back and listen to the first half if you haven't already done so. Tiffany Witten
1:51 was born on January thirtieth, nineteen eighty seven, and Kennesaw, Georgia. Her mother, Lisa Daniels, had described Tiffany as a happy baby, but Lisa would become troubled by Tiffany's bad behavior. Lisa Daniels has said that at an early age, Tiffany began taking toys and other items that did not belong to her. She also began to lie often. As Tiffany got older, her life would spiral out of control. She continued stealing from her family and friends and became a habitual liar. Tiffany's teenage years were a struggle. She couldn't adapt to schoolwork and had no interest in school. She became rebellious in quit high school during her sophomore year. As a child, she had expressed interest in becoming a veterinarian, but she would abandon that dream. Tiffany became pregnant and then gave that child up for adoption. She would then give birth to a second child, but she would keep the second child, who would ultimately be raised by Tiffany's mother Lisa. Tiffany began heavily using drugs like oxycotton and worked at different waitress jobs. She also began to shoplift at Walmart regularly.
3:19 She would eventually get caught shoplifting more than once. In March of two and eleven, while living in Dalton, Georgia, Tiffany was arrested and charged for home invasion. She received a prison sentence in two twelve. By this time, tension had grown so intense between Tiffany and her mother that Lisa had to practice tough love with her daughter. She told Tiffany that she was done communicating with her until she gave up drugs in her criminal activities. Lisa had hoped this would be the wake up call Tiffany needed to overcome her troubles and become a more responsible mother. After Tiffany's release, she went into drug rehab.
4:02 According to Lisa, she appeared to be making some changes, but this will only last for about six weeks. Tiffany would then meet and begin dating a single father named Ashley Caudle, also known as Red. The couple began using crystal meth and other drugs. Friends of the couple described the relationship as toxin and trouble. They fought regularly, and due to Tiffany's drug addictions, she couldn't hold a job. She would show up high and be unable to work. She was eventually able to find a job at a local ihop, but then she would be fired for theft. On September twelfth, twenty thirteen, the couple went to a friend's house to do drugs. After leaving the friends home around midnight, the two arrived at a Marietta, Georgia Walmart at one am. After an hour, lost prevention staff became suspicious of Tiffany and washed her closely on security cameras. The couple went to pay for their items at two am. Although Coddle paid for his items, Tiffany had attempted to steal twenty dollars worth of merchandise. Lost prevention staff approached and attempted to apprehend Tiffany. One of the staff members grabbed Tiffany's bag. She slid her arm out of the bag, kicked off her flip flops, and ran away.
5:36 While mart's lost prevention staff did not attempt to pursue Tiffany after she ran away, security cameras have captured her running away into the parking lot, and she has never been seen again. The entire incident was captured on video and can be seen online. For Tiffany's story, I spoke to her mother, Lisa Daniels. This is the conclusion of a two part story, and now on with the story of Tiffany Witten is told by her mother, Lisa Daniels.
6:20 When you and your mother spoke to Tiffany's boyfriend, what did you ask him? I'm sure you asked, where is she? Tell me about the conversations that you had with him. Well, my mom talked to him first, and she told him about the Walmart letters and he said, yeah, she shoplifted some stuff in Walmart and got caught, but then she got away. And he said, but they have her purse and everything. And he said, yeah, I sure would like to have that person. I paid a lot of me for that. It was a coach first. That was his I'm next moment, she said, really, that's what he's talking about. The bird not worried about her, And it was just he was very nonchalant out saying, yeah, I hadn't seen her, i'n seen her suspense, have no idea where she is and when I talked to him and what he says he called hospitals looking for her, and that he asked people if they had seen her. And I can't remember who all he said he called.
7:20 And I think that his parole officer did say that he mentioned something to him about his girlfriend being missing. That was when he got picked up. I think on a violation that he said something about it. But law enforcement has had people say, well, he told me they were walking down Cobb Parkway and got in an argument and she ran off, and he didn't see her again and told somebody else that she went to rehab. He told somebody else that she got arrested. He told friends that she had got arrested, so her friends were going to bail her out, and that was when they found out she wasn't in jail and Cob County they chat Cobb County, patter springs Mary had as she wasn't in any jail in Cold County anywhere. So he told several different stories to a lot of people, and none of them were true. And what he could have said to those people if he didn't have anything to do with it, why didn't he just say to those people what happened that they were at Walmart, she got caught shopless thing, she got away, ran out, and he hadn't seen her since that's what he told my mom and me, But that's not what he was telling everybody else.
8:30 When other people started asking questions, he told multiple stories. He did not seem concerned, and he did not tell us. He did not tell me at all that and he didn't tell my mom as far as I know, unfortunately, as she passed away, But I don't recall her saying that he mentioned to her everything that he had done to try to find her, from what I understand from speaking them into anything to try to find her, and he certainly didn't call us. Now, did Tiffany or her boyfriend friend have a cell phone? He had a cell phone? Did law enforcement check out her cell phone records? Because I'm wondering if there was any communication between her and her boyfriend after she disappeared that night. Well, that's a little bit of a story in itself. I found out a few years ago that they had a pointed the phone record for her phone and it ended up being the wrong record, so they were never able to actually get her phone records.
9:31 So she had a prepaid phone. I think it was a Metro PCs or something like that. We know from that night that he walked across a parkway to the eye Hoops that was across the street where she used to work. He had friends over there, and he went in and was asking some of the people that she knew if they had seen her. From what one of the girls said. He sat out on a bench in front of the eyehop and she asked him, why don't you Is try calling her? And he said, because I have her phone, And he had two phones is and hers with him. Now, what about his phone? Did law enforcement check his phone? Since he's now in custody, I'm assuming at some point in time they have looked at his phone. Yes, and I knew that there were text messages between him and this other guy named Stephen that we're going back and forth. But the weird thing is that they were in the same place, So it didn't make sense that they were texting back and forth when they were in the same location. So I don't think we've ever figured out why that was. But that always seems extremely sketchy as well. So my theory is that he did find her that night is my theory, and assuming that your theory is correct, they must have got into some type of an argument and then possibly that's when something happened to her. Well, I'm sure that
11:01 there was an argument because he was in that store that night doing a drug deal, and he had a lot of cash on him, and he had a lot of open at the truck that he was driving, and here she was shoplifting and he was very angry about that immediately that he was very upset about that. Okay, So here's what doesn't make a lot of sense to me. He was angry about her shoplifting because if she got caught, that could have led to law enforcements searching his vehicle, and if he had some type of drugs or something along those lines inside of his vehicle, then that would have gotten him rested or sent back to prison or whatever for violating probation or whatever it was. And he had going on, So then I would have to ask why would he risk this by not paying for her items.
11:56 I mean, I'm thinking, if I'm him and i don't want her to get arrested for shoplifting, then I'm going to pay for her items to avoid any type of suspicion. So I did find that kind of strange. Yes, it doesn't make any sense. And I did see somewhere that law enforcement considers Tiffany's boyfriend as a person of interest in her disappearance, but the police can't prove it. So with that being said, where is the boyfriend today? And he's in prison. He got arrested almost one year to the day after she went missing. It was in September twenty fourteen, and he got arrested in Cherokee County, which if you're messing around with drugs, ellen drugs, that is why you do not want to get arrested. Because they ended up sentencing him as a recitivist and he got a twenty year sentence with mandatory ten years to serve. So his earliest possible release, I think is September.
13:00 I don't remember the exact day, but a September twenty twenty four And I'm going to assume that the police have had several conversations with him about the disappearance of Tiffany. So I'll tell you this that he has been saying for years that he would take a polygraph, He would take a polygraph. But when the police were ready to go. When the detective on the case at the time, who was John Dawes, he was the head of the cold case unit that time in Cog County. They had made the arrangements to go to the prison where he was to do the polygraph. He had the polygrapher all lined up and they kept Ashley in from whatever work he was supposed to perform that day. They kept him there and when they told him that those guys were coming to do the polygraph, he refused, even though he had been saying for three years before that that he would take a polygraph. That's not unusual. I mean, you hear about it all the time. You hear the guys at are suspected of these crimes screaming to the top of the lungs that they'll take a wide detector tests to prove their innocence. But yet when it comes down to it, they have no intention of actually doing it.
14:11 They're just talking, yeah, until it comes down to brush bacts. Yeah right. I'm pretty sure that two of the most common statements that you'll hear from any convict or anyone in jail is they'll take a lie detector test to prove that they're innocent, and then of course they always claim that they found God. You can always guarantee that you'll hear those two statements or one of them from anyone that's in prison. Yeah, they really did find God. When they get out of prison, you'll see that. And you do see that sometimes, but the majority of the time it's used as a kind of a chip. I guess, Hey, I found God, so you should let me out. I don't know, and I don't know what his case is. I look, I don't say he does find God because maybe if he does, I'll find my daughter, so that would be amazing.
15:05 I hope that he does. Now, have you ever visited him since he's been incarcerated. I mean, you did know him, so maybe he would have a change of heart by now and talk to you about your daughter. No. Now, I've had some email exchanges with him. I'm not currently on his list. I think he blocked me, but I did have some email exchanges with him. Now. Doesn't the prison email system go through something called JPay I think that's what it is. Yes, Yeah, through Jay And the last one, the last exchange that I had with him, well, the next of the last one was where he said he would take the polygraph, and then the last exchange I had with him after kicking and stomp him for three years, telling me you would take a polygraph and now you turn it down. So that tells me everything I need to done. And I hasn't done with him at top point, completely done, and I do feel like, look, somebody out there knows besides him, He didn't do this by himself. Somebody knows. But the problem is, it's just such a complicated web of these addicts. Did you use hers? And it's the craziest thing I've ever seen. Even a lot of very seasoned detectives are like, yeah, I've just never tried to unravel anything like this before. It's crazy the people that are involved, and they're all drug addicts. So it's somebody getting clean and possibly finding Jesus to come forward. I don't know.
16:33 I don't know why somebody hasn't come forward by now, because people don't just vanish from the face of the earth without a trace, dead or alive. She's out there somewhere, and I'm guessing that whatever happened to her happened to her on the evening that she disappeared. Yes, Yes, I would say so. After Tiffany's disappearance, she has never contacted her family, friends, or anyone else. Her mother, Lisa, said that Tiffany would have contacted someone had she simply ran away. Unfortunately, Lisa believes that something sinister happened to her daughter, and she has also accepted the fact that she will probably never see Tiffany alive again. We'll take a short break and return with Lisa's thoughts on what could have happened to Tiffany after she ran away from Walmart's loss prevention staff. Unfortunately, based on everything that you've told me, it doesn't sound like Tiffany's alive anymore. Because even if you take someone with addiction issues, they still will contact someone. If they don't contact their family, they have friends, or they have someone that they will reach out to for help.
18:07 Thinking about that night, your daughter knew she had violated her probation. I'm sure as she was running through the parking lot she realized this and she probably thought, well, it looks like I'm going back to jail again. So surely she would have wanted to discuss that with someone. Yep, they contact somebody right right, and think about how traumatic this was for her. I mean, she knows she shoplifted, she got caught, and she knows that she's going back to jail. If that's not trauma, I don't know what else would be. And I'm sure she was definitely concerned about it.
18:48 Yes, yes, it's not even just that she's females, so I'm female. I know how that works. It's like, when something this big happens in your life, whether you need help or not, you want to tell somebody about it. And the way that she was, yeah, the way that she was on Facebook and constantly communicating with people, there would have been some signs that she got Facebook and fight. Dude, you are not going to believe what just happened to me? Right, And as you said, she liked to tell what she was doing and share it on Facebook. But yet nothing So after she gets caught shoplifting and gets away, there's not a peep out of her on Facebook, which would be unlikely because as you said, she shares everything on Facebook, or she did, right, Hey, can you hide me out? Do you know what he plays? God?
19:45 No sign of that. And so granted granted he did have her phone, said there's that she didn't have a phone. She didn't have any shoes, so she didn't go far on foot barefootedge. Okay, I can tell you that right now. So there are a limited number of things that could have happened. Could she have hit Sharad with the wrong person, Yeah, that's a possibility. I think it's It would be a huge coincidence that she was with a drug dealer who was probably going to be extremely mad at her that she was shot, left them when he had a pocket full of cash and drugs in his car. But she hit Sharad with the one person on Cole Parkway at two o'clock in the morning, you know, who was a sex trafficker. Could it have happened? Is it within the Roman posionality? Of course it is. I don't want to think that way. I don't want to believe that's what happened, because that's worse than believing that she's gone.
20:45 Honestly, that's worse to me. Yeah, Well, here's the problem that I would have with a stranger abduction theory. Has she got taken by a stranger. I'm thinking that a boyfriend would have been more involved in looking for her, and he probably would have taken that lie detector test. He probably would have thought, well, I'll take it because I know I had nothing to do with her disappearance. But him not taking it, and then he's given different stories about what happened to her that night, it's all really suspect. Yeah, exactly exactly. I've taken classes on how to spot liars, and one of the things that the instructor taught us was that when people tell the truth, they'll stick to that story all the time, and then if you ask them a week later, they'll tell you the same story. And then say you asked five months down the road, they'll tell you the same story. Now, if they lied to you, then they have to keep trying to remember what they told you the previous time, and the way the memory works, that's not really possible because as we age, we forget things.
22:03 I'm sure if you asked him today, he would have a different story or he would add new details. And based on what I learned and spotting liars in that training course I took, the boyfriend has all the sign of lying about what happened to your daughter on that night, right, Because yes, the difference between a truth and a lie, the truth never changes. If this is what happened. Then anybody who asked you, this is what you're going to tell them. But why is it that everybody who asked you got a different story, including his baby mama. Baby mama said that he told her that she went to rehab, and so baby mama said, well, why is all of her stuff still here? And he didn't have any explanation for that. Well, she didn't need it. She would rehab that he still had all of her stuff. Now do you know if law enforcement has gone back and interviewed the boyfriend and former girlfriends, friends, former co workers, booking, any of those people and asked them if he's ever mentioned anything about your daughter's disappearance? Has law enforcement spoken his friends and family about that subject? They have? They have, Yeah, a lot of people have said things. There's one guy. I'm not going to mention names here, but I will tell you that there was a female who was in jail in Cobb County who got in touch with Detective Mueller, who was on the
23:36 case at that time, and so Detective Muller went out to talk to her and she told her that, hey, my boyfriend told me that he was there that he knows what happened to Tiffany, and so she told detective Mueller that her boyfriend said that he was staying at the same house where Tiffany and Ashley were staying, and that they did come in after the whole Walmart incident, that they came back home together, and that at some point I'm not real clear because this whole thing at Walmart happened at two in the morning, so I'm not really clear if what he described to his girlfriend happened at some time in the morning or it was the following evening. Who knows. They're all messed up on drugs, so day and night probably doesn't really click.
24:27 So the girlfriend tells Detective Maler that her boyfriend heard of emotion in the room next door. He came out of the room that he was sleeping in, and Ashley was in the hallway very distressed. Instead, Oh my god, Hilder, they had been a fight and he choked her, and so Ashley tells this guy, you're gonna help me get rid of her, otherwise I'm gonna say you did it, or I'm gonna say you helped me, or whatever kind of threatened him that you're going to help me get rid of the body, and he even told his girlfriend where they went to bury the body, and so Detective Muller they go looking for him, this guy. When they find out where he is, they go to this house. He runs out the back door. They chase them down, and the first question or the first words out of his mouth when they finally caught him, was you're here about Tiftic. Okay, why would he say that? So he tried to claim later that the all the reason why he ran was because he thought they were there to serve a warrant. Well, he's been in the system long enough to know detectives don't come to serve warrants like for failure. True, that's the Sheriff's department. He knows that. So he didn't think that they were there to serve a warrant. That's bs. And they did talk to him, even one of the assistant das talked to him, and they
26:02 even took him when they decided to go to the site where this young man's girlfriend claimed that they had taken Tiphany. They actually went to that site with cadaver dogs with an excavator that excavated some fight from the property. They got him out of jail took him out there, and Detective Muller said, look, okay, without admitting anything, if you were going to bury a body out here, where would you bury a body? You know? Hypothetical and I think he pointed out a couple of possible locations, but he was just real withdrawn, really didn't want to say anything. And Detective Muller showed him a picture of something that Pattie had drawn that said, by missy mommy, it was just really sweet. And when she showed him that picture, he broke down in tears. This guy right here knows something. I've been saying it for years that he knows something, and he has said they actually thought that they had him close to breaking, and then an attorney that was in the room was like, hold up, do you want to talk to me alone without them in the room, And that was it. He claimed up after those he never said anything out And I've even tried talking to him.
27:27 I emailed with him when he was in prison, and he claims that because I even accused him of killing her just to try to get his goat up. And I said, well, you know what, maybe the reason why you don't want to say anything is because maybe you're the one who told her. Maybe you did it, and you're trying to put it on him, And he got real angry and he goes, I'm a lot of things, and I'm not a good person, but I'm not a killer. And I believe him. I don't think that he did have anything to do with it, but I do say I do believe the story that he that the girlfriend told because later, you know, after all of this, she was still in jail, and she was actually housed in Paulding County, and that's another whole story, even though it was under a Cow County arrest. And I did a video visit with her when she was in Paulding County and I said, look, all I want to know. I know the story that you told detective more about your boyfriend. And the only thing, the only question I had for you to have for you because I think that you believed him and that's why you came forward. Do you still believe him? Do you think that the story that he told you was the truth? And she said, yes, ma'am, I do, and she was in tears when she said it. I do believe with all my heart that this guy knows And when was the last time you tried talking to this guy. It's been several years ago, because it was before we moved here. We've been here for two years. That may have been up three years ago. Maybe you could try talking to him again. Yeah, I don't know where he is right
28:59 now. He was to talk to them because he was in prison. That I always check, and he's not in prison now. I just checked last Friday, unless he got picked up over the weekend, which I know a lot of times. I will check on Mondays to see if he's in a Cobb County. He shouldn't be too hard to find. Yeah, if he's in jail, he's not hard to find. I can find him as he's in jail. Well, you could also try to hire a PI or they have those websites that have information on different people. In the past, I've subscribed to a few of them, and I think a lot of the times they are accurate. They could tell you where the person lives and provide former addresses, So who knows. Maybe something like that could be helpful too, if you do want to try to get a hold of the sky again.
29:48 None of them, yeah, but a lot of them. Yeah, Yeah, trust me. These guys that you're not going to put them down on one of those websites. It's the only way that I'm ever able to locate them is I'll find in jail. I'll either find him in Cobb County, usually Cobb County, sometimes it's Fallsing, sometimes Douglas, occasionally Culton County. I have access to all those websites in Georgia DSc, so I know that right now. One of the people that I really want them to talk to is Tiffany's cousin that she was really close to, because I think that he might have some information that would be helpful. And right now he's in prison.
30:30 But the last time I told them he's in prison, you need to go and talk to him, they put it off and put it off and put it off until he was released and then nobody can find So I just checked on Friday and he's back in prison, so I'll let the detectives know that he's there. And I also found out that Ashley Caudle's brother is also imprison right now, and I feel like if anybody knows if he would have confided in anyone, it would be his brother to knowledge. They've not talk to his brother. His brother's name is Task. I don't think they've ever talked to him, and I think he would be a good one to talk to, you know, not saying that he had anything to do with it, but I just feel like a bachelor was going to confide in anybody that would be him. We will go ahead and take a final break and return with Lisa's closing thoughts at Tiffany and the law enforcement agency that's handling her daughter's disappearance and how she's using social media to get Tiffany's story out to the public.
31:45 Okay, and can you tell me about the police department that is handling Tiffany's case for anyone that's listening, and if it's possible that they have a tip, who they need to contact. So last year, a city of Marietta turned the case over to Cob County because Cobb County is bigger, they have more resources, and so currently Detective Cook from Cobb County Major Crimes is the one who's in charge of the case. Cobb County Police Department. So the Sheriff's Department, my brother actually works for the Sheriff's department, and unfortunately they're not the ones investigating the case, but it is Cobb County Detective Cook.
32:28 So she just took over the case last year late last year, and there have been several Detective Muller probably made the most headway. She's the one who actually got the first statement from Ashley Caudle, and that was what she had said to me was, look, I'm going to have him in here for not arresting him. We just want to talk to him because I want to get him locked into a story. And so she did that pretty early on. And then when he got arrested, they did a drug raide at a house in Powder Springs and he was a part of that. And when he was in jail, they have all of the jail calls of course, and visits are all recorded, so there's video of him. You might have read about this in the Squire story that there's video of him with this girlfriend that came to visit him, and he holds up one of the flyers, the missing flyers, and says, yes, they think I killed this bitch, is how he says it. And I know that you have a Facebook page for this case. Can you tell me where that can be found?
33:35 I do have a Facebook page. It's fine. Tiffany Winton, and we have a good amount of followers on there, and whenever a podcast comes out, or any kind of a story or article, anything at all, I do try to share that on the Facebook page because it does keep interest up. I mean, the interest kind of wanes and it's hard for me to some days. You know, there was a while there where I was supposed to say I think every single day, and now I don't post this often because there's just not no new information for me to So I do try to use that page to help other people who loved one's min I'm sure you probably know this, but a lot of people will just be amazed at how many people go missings in this country every day, especially young women, and who are never found, who are never found. And the most difficult part is to not knowing, not about not knowing what happened, but just not knowing is she still out there? Is she being held against her will? Which I'll tell you I highly doubt, because that girl would fight to the death before somebody's going to hold her against her will. How do you know that?
34:45 I strongly believe that about her. And so when people bring up several people more than I can count have brought up, Well, she might have gotten sex traffics, and I don't like to think about that. I really don't. But I do believe she's a wildcat. That girl would fight to the death before you profit her, so she'd rather die. So I don't believe that that's what happened to her. I truly do not. I just won't let my mind go there. But I don't need to know what happened as much as I just need to be able to put her to rest and have I don't know that closure is the right word. I don't know that I'll ever have closure. Do you believe I'll see her again one day?
35:30 You know, not on this earth. And I firmly believe that God has a plan and all of this, and I may never know while I'm alive on this earth what that plan is, but one day i'll know. One day I'll know all and that's what That's what sustains me. Does that take okay? And the last question that I would have for you is for anyone out there who's listening to the sound of your voice, if they know anything about what happened to Tiffany, what would you say to that person? And her persons. I've said before to people, especially if it's somebody who knows her and was friendly with her, and have told people this before, that she would have done it for you. She would have come forward. You know, if it was somebody that she knew was missing and she knew what happened, she would come forward. I do know that about her. She would not let something like that go. If she could give a family answers to what happened to their loved one, that she would do that. And all I need is for somebody to come forward and say, look, I know what happened, I know where she is. I'm not even looking for any kind of vengeance. I mean, at this point, even if she were found, if she were found today, chances of them being able to prove who did it and how are swim tone. It would be very difficult to prove, you know, unless she had i'd forbidable at all in her skull. I think it would be very difficult to prove what happened to her.
37:05 And I don't have any desire to punish Ashley Caudle to say I know you did this, and I'm going to make sure you pay for it. I just want to know where my daughter is. I don't care about having, you know, God to hold them responsible. I don't have to do that. I don't have to do that. I just want to know where my daughter is so that she can rest in peace. That's it. He is where she can be located, then please just come forward. I will not you know, nobody's going to try to go after you or anything like that. And I've even told law enforcement this that make a deal with him, you know, if he's willing to tell where she is in exchange for not getting jail, tom or whatever, make the deal. That's all I want. I just want to know where she is. And that concludes Tiffany's story. Tiffany has been missing for nearly a decade. What happened to her after she was last seen fleeing from a Marietta, Georgia walmart. She has never been seen again. Her mother doesn't think that law enforcement has taken her case seriously because of her addictions and past issues with the law. Regardless of Tiffany's issues with drugs and the law, she still deserves a chance at life, a chance to reconcile her differences with her family. Someone out there knows what happened to her. Her boyfriend, Ashley Coddle, has said that he never saw Tiffany again after she fled from Walmart loss prevention employees, but he
38:37 has told different people different stories. According to Lisa Daniels, he is currently incarcerated and denies harming Tiffany. Do you know what happened to Tiffany Witten on the night that she vanished into the darkness? If you know anything about this case, please contact the Mariette to Georgia Police anonymous tipline at seven seven zero seven nine four six nine nine zero. And if you would like to know more about this case, you can also visit the Fine Tiffany Witten Facebook page. I will be sure to provide this information in the case story notes.
39:19 And if you are a parent, law enforcement official, friend, or relatives you can justice for an unsolved Thomas side case. Please visit my website and complete the contact form. You can also contact me through Facebook. Thank you for listening.
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