Episode 177: Tiffany Whitton (Part 1 of 2)

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Hello, and welcome to the Catch
My Killer Podcast. Thank you for listening.

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My name is Mark. For nearly
eight years, I've written a weekly

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newspaper column about true crimes and missing
people for the Claremont Sun newspaper in Ohio.

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With the column and podcast, my
objective has always been to try to

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bring attention to the cases that haven't
received much media attention, if any at

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all. This week's story involves a
troubled young Georgia woman named Tiffany Witten.

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She had many interpersonal demons that she
was battling, and to make matters even

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worse, Tiffany had become involved in
a volatile relationship with a man with an

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extensive criminal record. His name is
Ashley Red Caudle. During the early morning

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hours of September thirteenth, twenty thirteen, the couple went shopping at a Walmart

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and Marietta, Georgia. Tiffany had
shoplifted some merchandise and was apprehended by Walmart

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loss prevention staff as she was leaving. Tiffany managed to get away and ran

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out of the front door and into
the parking lot. She has never been

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seen again. Tiffany Witten was born
on January thirtieth nineteen eighty seven and Kennesaw,

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Georgia. Her mother, Lisa Daniels, had described Tiffany as a happy

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baby, but Lisa would become troubled
by Tiffany's bad behavior that started at an

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early age. Lisa Daniels has said
that at an early age, Tiffany began

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taking toys and other items that did
not belong to her. She also began

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to lie often. As Tiffany got
older, her life would spiral out of

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control. She continued stealing from her
family and friends and became a habitual liar.

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Tiffany's teenage years were a struggle.
She couldn't adapt to school work and

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had no interest in school. She
became rebellious in quit high school during her

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sophomore year. As a child,
she had expressed interest in becoming a veterinarian,

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but she would abandon that dream.
Tiffany became pregnant and then gave that

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child up for adoption. She would
then give birth to a second child,

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but she would keep the second child, who would ultimately be raised by Tiffany's

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mother, Lisa. Tiffany began heavily
using drugs like oxycotton and worked at different

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waitress jobs. She also began to
shoplift at Walmart regularly. She would eventually

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get caught shoplifting more than once.
In March of twenty and eleven, while

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living in Dalton, Georgia, Tiffany
was arrested and charged for home invasion.

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She received a prison sentence in two
twelve. By this time, tension had

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grown so intense between Tiffany and her
mother that Lisa had to practice tough love

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with her daughter. She told Tiffany
that she was done communicating with her until

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she gave up drugs and her criminal
activities. Lisa had hoped this would be

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the wake up call Tiffany needed to
overcome her troubles and become a more responsible

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mother. After Tiffany's release, she
went into drug rehab. According to Lisa,

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she appeared to be making some changes, but this would only last for

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about six weeks. Tiffany would then
meet and begin dating a single father named

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Ashley Caudle, also known as Red. The couple began using crystal meth and

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other drugs. Friends of the couple
described the relationship as toxic and trouble.

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They fought regularly, and due to
Tiffany's drug addictions, she couldn't hold a

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job. She would show up high
and be unable to work. She was

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eventually able to find a job at
a local iyhop, but then she would

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be fired for theft. On September
twelfth, twenty thirteen, the couple went

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to a friend's house to do drugs. After leaving the friend's home around midnight,

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the two arrived at a Marietta,
Georgia walmart at one am. After

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an hour, lost prevention staff became
suspicious of Tiffany washed her closely on security

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cameras. The couple went to pay
for their items at two am. Although

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Coddle paid for his items, Tiffany
had attempted to steal twenty dollars worth of

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merchandise. Lost prevention staff approached and
attempted to apprehend Tiffany. One of the

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staff members grabbed Tiffany's bag. She
slid her arm out of the bag,

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kicked off her flip flops, and
ran away. While mart's lost prevention staff

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did not attempt to pursue Tiffany after
she ran away, security cameras have captured

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her running away into the parking lot, and she has never been seen again.

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The entire incident was captured on video
and can be seen online. For

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Tiffany's story, I spoke to her
mother, Lisa Daniels. This is the

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first part of a two part story. Be sure to listen to the conclusion

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next week and now on with the
story of Tiffany Witton is told by her

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mother, Lisa Daniels. Tiffany was
born and Marriedetta in January of nineteen eighty

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seven, and she was an absolutely
beautiful baby and normal baby, normal toddler.

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She did have some issues with taking
things early on. That was when

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I noticed that there was something not
quite right and that thing could be an

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issue really throughout her life that she
was burnie. She had a great personality.

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She was wicked smart and a lot
of fun to be around. She

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made friends very easily. She can
really talk to anyone and it was really

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just a free child that she did
start going off the rails in middle school.

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Didn't do well in middle school.
Thank god there wasn't social media then,

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because I think things could have been
a lot worse at that point.

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But she did really tend to not
make the best choices and friends. She

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had some friends that were just true
blue, really good friends, people that

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really did love her and care about
her, But then others that were just

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those friends that she don't really want
to be associated with, the no matter

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I mean kinds. I said to
her, Hey, guilt by association.

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If you're hanging out with these people
and they're doing things they shouldn't be doing,

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you're going to be right in there
with them. But she just getting

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really heed my warning, and things
got worse than high school. She actually

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ended up getting pregnant in high school. She gave a child up for adoption,

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and when she was the high school
and then she made the decision to

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drop out of high school, and
I think that's where things just really completely

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off the rails with her, and
she continued to the friend people that she

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shouldn't and at some point the drugs
came into the picture, and once she

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got hooked on drugs, that was
just the beginning of the end, unfortunately.

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So when would you say that she
really got heavily into drugs. Was

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it before high school or do you
think it was after she left. I'm

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not aware of any kind of drug
youth, or at least hard drug,

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But did she most weed or anything
like that in high school? More than

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likely yet, but I'm not aware
of any major drug youth until she was

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in her twenty and when I became
aware of it, I hadn't really seen

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the time, but once I became
aware of it, I did start seeing

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a lot of red flag and at
that point started trying to gear her back

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in the right direction to cut me
of her daughter. And she basically asked

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me to take care of her because
she just was not in a position to

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do that. And thank god we've
got a daughter. When she was about

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two years old, I've had her
think when she just turned sixteen, I

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had her for aboutteen years. I
saw the pictures of your granddaughter on Facebook,

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and I have to say, it's
really uncanny how much she looks just

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like her mother. I mean,
when I first saw the photos, I

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thought it was your daughter and racle
like her. Yeah she does, Yeah,

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I believe it or not. She
looks so much like her that even

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my granddaughter has actually made the mistake
of thinking that pictures of Tiffany were actually

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her. And she really had to
look at and say, way, man,

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I don't remember wherever wearing a shirt
like that or whatever. And I've

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done the same thing. I'm sure
what the pictures and said which one is

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this to really think about it.
So, yeah, they do look extremely

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alike for sure. So does that
likeness bring you any type of comfort?

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I mean, you have a granddaughter
that looks exactly like her mother. In

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some way, it does. In
another way, it makes me move her

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more, if that's possible. I
mean, just to look at her and

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I just can picture sitting and having
a conversation with kiffing me. It to

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reel in a lot of way.
But yeah, it does in some way

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to bring me comfort. I've really
thought about it that way, but it

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does. It's what being with her
again almost. I think I can understand

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that because my nine year old grandson
spends a lot of time over here with

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me, and it's kind of funny
that he looks just like his dad when

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his dad was about his age now. And whenever he sees pictures of his

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dad when his dad was a little
kid, my grandson will sometimes think it's

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him and I'll tell him, no, that's not you, that's your dad,

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and he goes, no, no, no, I know that's me,

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and I'm like, no, man, you look just like your dad

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when your dad was about your age, So those are pictures of your dad.

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When he was younger, he didn't
believe me. But now that he's

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older, he's understanding that he has
taken a likeness to his father. Sure,

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I'll look at Addie sometimes and I
just think, Wow, I know

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what you're gonna look like when you're
years old. That part of it's weird.

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And it's always interesting how your relationship
with a grandchild is really much different

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than the one you have with your
own children. I mean, for me,

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it's completely different. And I can
remember when my own parents told me

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years ago, they said, you
don't understand that relationship and how it's just

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completely different, And I thought,
well, how different could it be.

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I mean, they're kids, but
my parents were always a lot nicer to

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the grandkids than they were to their
own kids. But that's pretty common,

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and I guess I didn't realize it
until I became a grandparent myself. So

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it's funny how we become our parents, right right. Lisa Daniels would find

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herself in a situation that it has
occurred in many households throughout the country.

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Instead of becoming just a grandmother to
Tiffany's daughter, she would also have to

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assume a motherly role. We will
take a short break in return with Lisa's

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thoughts on how she became the caretaker
of her beloved granddaughter. Well, of

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course, being a grandparent is something
really special, but there is definitely a

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difference between me and that grandparents that
gets to do the fun things with their

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grandchild. You get to take them
out to eat, and you get to

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do all those fun activities. But
then at the end of the night they

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go home to their parents. And
that's my situation, but your situation is

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different because your grandchild doesn't go home
to their parents at the end of the

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day. You're basically the parents and
the grandparent at the same time. So

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you have to focus more on making
sure that your granddaughter has the things that

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she needs and all the love and
support that she would need, and you

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have to be the disciplinarian. Also, that part is no fun at all.

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So the grandparent role is much different
for you than it is for me,

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but it's still a great role.
But nonetheless it's still a great role.

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Definitely, I can understand that feeling
that now I've been raising her for

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the lasteen years, it's different because
I'm a parent to her. I grandparents,

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you have no idea. How much
I wish that it could be a

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grandparent to her, but I can't. She needs a parent when she's lost

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both her parents, so she had
to have parents. So my mom and

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dad and my husband's mom and dad
were grandparents to her, not great grandparents.

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Unfortunately, both of our mom's the
path, but she still has to

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grandpas. But we raised her like
our own because obviously, Defining wasn't around

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for most of that time, even
in the beginning. She was early on

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when the drug situation got worse,
we just could not allow her to be

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around because we felt like a safety
issue at that point, and so she

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really wasn't around her much. So
we've been mom and dad for the last

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fourteen years. And you know what's
interesting is I saw a story on Facebook

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of a young woman that reminded me
of your daughter. I mean, she

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had a hard time, she struggled, she was on drugs, and then

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there were pictures of her of what
she looked like when she was younger and

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on drugs. Of course she looked
absolutely horrible. And then the picture next

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or was of her graduating from college
after she quit doing drugs and got herself

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cleaned up. And I enjoy seeing
stories like that because I think it's commendable

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when someone decides to make a change
and then they go through with it and

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stick to it, because that's not
an easy thing for a lot of people

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to do. That could be one
of the stories that I posted because I

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see stories like that and I like
to post them because they're great stories.

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And the thing is, the percentage
of people who are able to kick that

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drug, especially any kind of opiate, if they're able to kick it and

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stay queen and get their lives together
and be successful, they're a very small

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percentage those people are, and they
should be celebrated it because it's hard,

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very hard. Unfortunately, one of
the cruelties that go with drug use is

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that I think the way that drugs
are manufactured today, it's almost impossible for

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people to kick these habits. For
instance, I've heard that it's nearly impossible

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to kick a meth habit because the
drug is so powerful. And the thing

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is, the people who made it
know this, and they intentionally do this

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because they don't want anyone to kick
the habit, so they basically make slaves

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of people. And I really can't
think of anything more evil than to make

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someone a slave that takes them away
from their family, friends, and other

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loved ones. Right, well,
you're right to a point. A Heroine

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has always been a physically addictive drug, so that if you do at one

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time, you're physically addicted to that. But now the danger is fentinal.

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But I've actually heard a lot of
stories and actually know people who have children

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who have unfortunately succumb to that doing
a drug that they thought was heroin or

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oxycotton or something like that that they
had gotten illegally, and while heroine obviously

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illegally and it was waced with sentel
and killed them. So it's much more

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dangerous now than what it was.
Even when Tiffany started, I steel felt

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like, if we could just get
her on the right path, that she

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had a shot because she had a
lot of family support, she had a

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lot of people who loved her.
She had a close friends who would have

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done anything for her, and I
felt like she would have a shot.

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But that's what that's the one thing
that one of the things other than just

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not knowing where she is and what's
happened to her, is that now she

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doesn't have a shot. You know, it's possible that if she will still

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hear. We may still be going
through those same struggles, or she might

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be in prison right now, or
she might be in rehabit at least she

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would have a shot. So at
different times before she disappeared, you were

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able to actually get her in to
rehab. Is that correct? He did?

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Ye? How many times did she
try to go to rehab and get

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her life together? Well, we
got her into one rehab and she got

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herself kicked out about six weeks in. She was doing great in the first

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part of the program when they're more
restricted so that all they're doing is go

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into meetings. And there was an
impatient rehab, not like a hospital.

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She lived in a home with three
or four other young women. They count

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floors. They went to NA meetings. She was not allowed to lead the

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facility at that point. She was
allowed to leave the facility and get a

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job offsite. That was when she
met somebody who was also an addict,

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and that was it. That was
it was right at to the same old

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thing. Damn, that's terrible.
Six weeks of hard work just down the

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drain exactly, and had been doing
so well, so just heartbreaking and maddening.

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You know, at the same time, it's like, I don't know

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whether to be sad or mad or
you know, the fields are just all

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over the board. Because I wasn't
mad. I was angry with her at

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the same time, I'm bad because
I'm like, I don't know what you'd

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help her. And as it turns
out, the things that I've learned since,

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rehab or an opioid addiction does not
look the same as rehab for alcohol

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addiction or cocaine addiction. It's a
completely different type of addiction, and therefore

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it's a completely different type of rehab. So what we were doing to try

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to help her was probably never going
to help her. Unfortunately, So when

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she wasn't able to kick her bad
habits, did it ever come to a

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point where you had to have that
k with her, like, look,

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I can't take this anymore. You
can't live with me. You're going to

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go on your own. You can't
stay with me until you get your shit

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together. Did you ever have that
kind of a talk? Yes, that

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did happen. So the fact that
I had her young daughter living with me,

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she cannot also live with me,
not as long as she was using.

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She couldn't. My husband was traveling
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he was gone mostly during the week. I didn't feel safe because when she

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was using, she's very unpredictable and
she would steal anything. So I did

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not feel comfortable having her in my
home. I didn't know if I was

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going to wake up and Addie would
be gone, or she would have cleaned

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me out, or she would bring
somebody over there to clean me out,

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and who knows what's going to happen. I'm sorry that people who are on

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these drugs are not in their right
mind, and I know she would never

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do that when she was clean.
She would never do anything like that to

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me, But I didn't know what
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She was just too unpredictable. And
so she did stay with my parents for

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a while, but my dad only
said no, she can't. He didn't

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feel safe. My mom didn't feel
safe, and mostly that was because of

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the kinds of people that she was
associating with more than it was because of

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her. Lisa had desperately tried to
help Tiffany get her life straightened out.

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She loved her daughter, but she
couldn't trust her. She didn't want Tiffany

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conducting her toxic behavior around her own
daughter. As a grandmother, Lisa felt

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the need to protect her granddaughter from
any toxicity. She would be forced to

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give Tiffany some tough love. She
would eventually give Tiffany an ultimatum. Either

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get yourself together or don't come around
here anymore. Does have to be the

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most difficult words that any parents can
utter to their child. We will take

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a final break and listen to Lesa
share her thoughts about her inability to convince

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her daughter to change your life for
the better. So after leaving your household,

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she would go on and stay with
your parents, is that correct?

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She didn't. She stayed with him
for a short period of time and it

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just didn't work out. When she
first connected with Ashley Caudle and my mom

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had the opportunity to meet him,
my mom begged her to leave him and

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come home with her, and she
would not. She would not. She

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said she could not. It's what
she told my mother that she could not

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leave him. I've seen pictures of
that guy. He doesn't exactly look like

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the type of guy that you want
to see your daughter bring home. No.

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No, When I say she didn't
make the friends, she made even

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worse choice than boyfriend. She probably
really only dated two young men that I

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actually approved up. One of those
was when she was in high school.

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He was amazing, would have been
so good for her. And then the

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other one was when Addie was maybe
eighteen months old or so, somewhere between

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eighteen and two years old, and
she was dating a guy that I thought

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was a really quality person. But
it did not laugh unfortunately, and she

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was right back to the bad choices, and the bad choices just led to

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worst choices. And I think that
the only reason that she was with Ashley

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Caudle was busy kept her supplied with
her drugs. I can't imagine any other

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reason. Yeah, well, it
sounds reasonable to assume that the toxic relationship

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lasted because of your daughter's needed for
drugs, and if she had an ability

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to get them through her boyfriend,
then that could explain why she stayed.

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Now, can you recall when was
the last time that you actually spoke to

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Tiffany? August thirty feet of twenty
thirteen. That was the last We were

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at a Quinsy, Georgia football game
and with one someome fans. She had

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called me several times that day.
We had texted back and forth. We

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were all excited about the game,
and so I had some good conversations with

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her that day and then that was
the last time that I ever talked to

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her. I had tried texting her, I had messaged her on Facebook,

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couldn't get in touch with her.
So at that point that was typical behavior

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for her. If she was using
we didn't hear from her. If she

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was doing well and was Queen for
a short period of time, we would

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talk a lot. And that was
when she went missing, obviously, was

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in September of that same year.
My mom had seen her about a week

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before that, and that was when
she met Ashley. That was when she

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was begging Tiffany to leave him and
come home with her, and she said

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she couldn't do that. And that
was the last time that my mom had

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a conversation with her. Was about
a week before she went missing, and

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we continually tried to get in touch
with her of both my phone and on

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Facebook Messenger. She never would respond
to us, but there was just there

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was no way for us to know
that the situation was as dire as it

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was because she had done before.
It wasn't like she'd always around every day.

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It went in spurts, so she
would be good for a few weeks

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or a few months, and we
would hear from her. We'd talked to

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her with there occasionally, and then
she'd just go off to grid for two

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or three months at a time.
So there was nothing for us to be

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alarmed about at that point. But
then later that year, my mom got

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the mail that was addressed to Tiffany
that was from a law firm. And

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what I want to help people,
I call it the Walmart extortion letters,

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because if you ever get caught shoplifting
at Walmart, you will get a letter

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in the mail from Walmart attorney letting
you know that if you will pay them

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whatever the amount is. I think
in this case in the one hundred and

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fifty dollars, they will not file
civil charges against you. There's nothing about

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the criminal charges. That pay us
money and we won't file any civil charges

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against you. So these letters came
to my parents because that was Tiffany's The

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last address that she had listed was
their house, and my mother immediately called

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me about it and I said,
Okay, something's wrong, because that means

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you might be in jail because she
got caught shop listed at Walmart is the

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only reason why she would have gotten
eat letters. So my mom picked up

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the phone and called Ashley Cordall and
that was when we found out the story

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about them being at Walmart. And
I'm sure you read all this and the

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Squire article that they were at Walmart
and she was shoplifting, and the reason

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why they knew who she was is
because when she ran out, she had

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them flipped whip. She ran right
out of her shoes and she dumped her

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purse because they had hold of her. One of the security people had hold

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of about her purse, so she
slipped her arm out of it, and

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that's how he was able to get
away. So they had her purse with

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her idea, and that's how they
knew who she was and the reason why

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the letters pay. But she never
was arrested for that. Yeah. So,

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after watching the video of when Tiffany
got into the altercation with Walmart's staff

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in front of the entrance, I
had wondered why did she get caught shoplifting

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when her boyfriend had so much cash
on him. I don't think I understood

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that. Why did he not pay
for her items? I don't know.

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I've wondered about that a lot,
and I've talked with some law enforcement boats

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about you know, is it possible
she wanted to get caught. There were

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some indicators on some of her Facebook
messages that she was trying to get away

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from him. But then if she
wanted to get caught, why did she

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not just let herself get arrested instead
of running away? Right? But then

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you think, Okay, well,
he's probably going to wait on her,

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or he's probably going to go bell
or out, and then she's right back

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in the same boat. So I
don't really know. I can't answer that

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often only guess at where her head
was that. But she did have a

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problem with feeling. She had that
issue said she was a small child.

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The first time that she got caught
shoplifting at Walmart. I think she's all

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three dollars para flip pops that she
had more than enough money to pay for.

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So I don't know why people do
that. It was definitely an impulse

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control issue with her, that she
would do something, she would take it.

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She lost a lot of friends that
way, stealing from friends. She

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stole from me for my parents,
and she definitely had an issue with that.

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Oh and I wanted to mention that
I read about the Walmart incident with

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Tiffany in a Squire and I just
wanted to comment that I thought the article

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was well written and it was definitely
an excellent story. The writer did a

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pretty good job of telling her story, or at least I think he did.

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I mean, it wasn't an article
where the author just bashed your daughter

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throughout the story. He did show
some compassion when he wrote it. He's

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a great story. Go So,
after she runs out of Walmart, she's

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never been seen or heard from again. Can you tell me a little bit

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more about that. No, one
just disappears, and I just find it

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hard to believe that she would just
run away and leave her life behind.

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Tell me more about what you think
happened to her that night. Well that's

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the mystery. If i'body could answer
that, then we would know. But

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she ran out of Walmart, I
asked Astley myself ran out? Which direction

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did she go? Did she see
which direction she went? Oh? Yeah,

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she ran straight towards the vialway for
Halloway forty one cough carfway. Well

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that is not true. Security said
that she ran straight across the parking lot,

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which I don't know how familiar you
are with that location, but if

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you run straight up the doors of
Walmart and just go straight, there's a

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Sam's claud right there, and security
said that was the direction that she ram

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was toward the Sam's Club. So
police did search behind that fan club because

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I thought, hey, what if
she fell or did her head or something,

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she could be back there all along. But they did search that area.

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There was no sign. What about
cameras. I mean, we know

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Walmart had a camera, but what
about Sam's Club. Didn't Sam's Club have

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a camera? Or any of the
other businesses that were in the area did

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they have cameras? Also, obviously
no one just disappears in the thin air.

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So the issue with the cameras,
the outside cameras, they recycled those

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do they only keep them for a
certain period of time. And unfortunately,

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by the time we realized where she
was la seeing and what had happened,

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that footage was gone. So they
did check all the businesses around there,

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nobody had it. The only reason
why they have the footage inside the Walmart

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is because she was off with thing. If not for that, they wouldn't

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even have that footage. And how
long did it take before you and family

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members became truly concerned that's something bad
had possibly happened to Tiffany. So when

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the Walmart letters came and my mom
called me about that, I became concerned,

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but not concerned that something had happened
to her. I felt like that

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kind of solidified in my mind own. Okay, that makes sense. While

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we haven't heard thrumber because she knows
she's in trouble, she's on parole,

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and if parole gets told of this
and finds out, she's going to jail

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because she tied out. That was
her thought. She's got to be lay

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in love and eventually she's going to
come out. Somebody's going to hear from

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her, and we knew who it
would be. But she has a cousin

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that she was really close to.
The girlfriends that she was really close to

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you. There were the writer die
type. Its like they won't write me

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out, they'll help me. My
mother would have been one that she would

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have called. I would write her
out, she wouldn't call me. I'm

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law abiding and I want her to
get through her parole. It's like,

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if you grew up, you got
to paid consequence. And okay, that's

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just how it worked, and I'm
not going to cover for you. I'm

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not going to get myself in trouble
covering for you. And she knew that,

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so I knew I would be the
last person she would call. But

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I knew that there were a few
people that she would call. And I

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stayed in touch with all of those
people, and she never got in touch

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with any of them. And I
even thought would they even tell me if

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she had got to touch with them, But all of them knew how worried

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I was, and I do believe
that they would have told me if she

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had contacted them. By Thanksgiving,
when we didn't hear from her, that

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was when we really got worried because
kin City was really big on holiday and

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my birthday was in September. She
never called me. We had Thanksgiving,

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she never called Christmas, she never
called it. This whole time, I

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was actually getting in touch with people
via Facebook, her friends, people I

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didn't know, and can in the
Internet, looking for any sign that maybe

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something had happened to her. I
know it sounds morbid, and I still

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do it to this day. You
know, human remains, found, body

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found, anything. And I came
across the cliff from Pauling County, which

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is where I was living at the
time. Remains found just to be mads

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from my house, and so I
thought, oh, my god, was

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she trying to get home and something
happened, And so I didn't want to

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tell my mother about it. I
wanted to get through the holidays. And

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then because as we got through the
holidays, I did reach out to the

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detective on that case. Think we
had not followed the missing person by this

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time, because we had talked about
it, and my feeling on it at

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that time was, first of all, she's an adult. She has the

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right to be missing. I don't
know that any law enforcement officers even gonna

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be interested in following a missing person
because she's an adult and she's got a

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record, and she's gonna at it. This is what I'm going to hear.

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And more on that in a second. But I did reach out to

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the detective on that Paulding County cave
and he asked me some questions about Tiffany.

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You know, when was the last
time you talked to her? How

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long has she been gone? And
said then he said, well, I

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can assure you that the remains we
found are not her because these remains are

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at least a year old, it's
not more. So I said, okay.

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So that was a little bit of
a relief, and then I said,

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look, I need some direction here. I don't know what to do.

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I don't even know where I would
go to. I follow missing person

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with Paulding County, you know,
Cobb County, city in Marietta, I

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don't know. And so when he
asked me, where was the last time

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that somebody saw her? And I
followed him that Walmart and Marietta. He

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had told me Cobb County. So
I went to Cobb County and they said,

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no, that is City of Marietta. So my mother and I went

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to the City of Marietta to follow
missing person's report and it was a very

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nice officer that we dealt with.
He took the report and he said exactly

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what I thought he would. Look, you know, I looked her up

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and he said, you know,
she's got a record, she's an addict.

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I'm sure she's just waying low until
heat is off or whatever, or

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she'll be back. And so I
said, look, I get it.

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I'm not coming in here trying to
hide anything. To say that she's this

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innocence. But I said, I
do believe that the boyfriend could know more

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than what he's told us. His
story is just really hinky. And it

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was just real interesting in the conversations
that both my mother and I had with

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him, And why didn't he report
her missing or call us to say,

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hey, something's wrong, she's missing. This was what happened. And so

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I said, at a minimum,
can you please just bring him in and

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talk to him. I mean,
he's on parole too, though that shouldn't

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be too difficult, and all indications
for that. They were willing to do

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that, but then they did nothing. And long story short, when the

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case was assigned to a detective and
the detective finally took the time to call

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me, he said, yeah,
we're closing this case. She's an addict

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with a record, he's on parole. She would cast shoplifting. I'm sure

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she tied. Now she'll turn up
eventually, And I just knew that was

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not his cage by this time up
and Ena, No, I absolutely do

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not believe that. And so it
took a lot of weakiness on my part.

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I was lucky enough to have people
in my corner who did some digging

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for me got me information that I
couldn't have otherwise gotten on my own.

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I was able to get a hold
of a cell phone number for a person

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who at that time was a I
don't know exactly what his title was,

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that he with pardons and paroles and
cob County and his name was Patrick Price.

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Unfortunately he passed away at a very
young age, but he was very

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helpful to me in the beginning.
And he was the one who said,

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look, be a squeaky will.
You are really going to have to rape

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them hell to get people to listen
to you. And he was right about

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that, because nobody wanted to pay
attention, nobody wanted to do anything until

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I just said I'm not going away. I will not go away, and

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I just went up the chain of
a managel. I finally got somebody who

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would listen, and that was when
they had signed the case to Detective Johnny

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Mueller. And she was amazing.
I talked to her the first time when

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she called me. We might have
been on the phone for two hours just

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going over everything, and she had
to ask me some tough questions. Is

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it possible that she was prostituting herself
for drug Deep impossible. Is it possible

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that she committed suicide? Deep possible? But if that were the case,

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why hasn't she been found. She's
not going to do that in a place

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where she's not going to be found. And she's just not that kind of

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person. She's a people person.
He looked at her Facebook. She was

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always on Facebook. That's how she
communicated most of the time. She messaged

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back and forth on Facebook. She
was even doing drug bills for her boyfriend

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on Facebook. So for her to
be just completely off her Facebook, no

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messages. When I finally was able
to break into her Facebook, there were

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so many unread messages and unread notification
that I knew at the point that the

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likelihood I was ever going to see
her again one to none. I pretty

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much knew at that point that something
really bad had happened. And that concludes

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the first half of Tiffany's story.
Tiffany has been missing for nearly a decade.

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What happened to her after she was
last seen fleeing from Almyata George Walmart.

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She has never been seen again.
Her mother doesn't think that law enforcement

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has taken her case seriously because of
her addictions and past issues with the law.

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Regardless of Tiffany's issues with drugs and
the law, she still deserves a

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chance at life, a chance to
reconcile her differences with her family. Someone

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out there knows what happened to her. Her boyfriend, Ashley Coddle, has

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said that he never saw Tiffany again
after she fled from Walmart loss prevention employees,

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but he has told different people different
stories. According to Lisa Daniels,

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he is currently incarcerated and denies harming
Tiffany. Do you know what happened to

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Tiffany Witten on the night that she
vanished into the darkness? If you know

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anything about this case, please contact
the Marietta, Georgia Police anonymous tipline at

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seven seven zero nine four six nine
nine zero. And if you would like

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to know more about this case,
you can also visit the Fine Tiffany Witten

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Facebook page. I will be sure
to provide this information in the case story

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notes and be sure to listen to
the conclusion of Tiffany's story next week.

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And if you are a parent,
law enforcement official, friend, or relative

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seeking justice for an unsolved Thomas side
case, please visit my website and complete

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the contact form. You can also
contact me through your Facebook. Thank you

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for listening.