Episode 165: Lilliam Gomez

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Hello, Welcome to the Catchmight Killer
Podcast. Thank you for listening. My

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name is Mark. Since twenty fifteen, I've written a weekly newspaper column about

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true crimes and unsolved homicides for the
Claremont Sun newspaper in Ohio. Lilian Gomez

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was a twenty one year old woman
from Guatemala who had settled in Jerome,

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Idaho with her family. She was
a young woman who had done well in

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school and had plans for a bright
future. Unfortunately, her life would take

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a downward spiral after learning that she
was adopted. Her parents didn't tell her

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until later in life. Combined with
her adoptive parents getting divorced and her mother

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returning to Guatemala without her, Lilian
would turn to drugs. She would go

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missing in March twenty twenty. Her
younger sister, Juliana, has been trying

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to find out what happened to Lilium. Perhaps you can help her get the

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answers she seeks. Lilian Gomez was
born in Guatemala on December twenty fourth,

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ninety eight. She would later learn
that she was adopted in harbor anger towards

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her parents for not disclosing this to
her when she was younger. She would

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eventually seek out her biological parents.
Her adoptive parents have relocated from Guatemala and

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settled in Jerome, Idaho. Jerome
is a county seat of Jerome County,

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Idaho. According to the idaho dot
Com website, Jerome has a population of

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just over twenty four thousand people.
Jerome is known for dairy farming. But

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Lilian's problems began after her parents divorced. Her mother would return to Guatemala while

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Lilian remained in Jerome with her father
and younger brother and younger sister. According

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to her sister Julianna, Lilian turned
to drugs to cope with her problems.

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Lilian was living with a relative in
Jerome and worked for a local potato plant.

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She would then move out of her
relative's house and move into the home

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of a co worker. She would
become close friends with a relative of Julianna's

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husband, who worked with Lilian at
the potato plant. Lilian was known to

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love posting the social media and she
always kept in contact with her family,

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but everything would come to a head
in March of twenty twenty, when William

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would vanish. Her social media posts
would go silent. And she would stop

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all contact with her friends and family. Juliana knew that this was not like

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her sister. There was no way
that she would just walk away from her

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life and her family and friends.
She contacted the Jerome Police Apartment and reported

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her sister missing. Unfortunately, she
felt like law enforcement didn't take her case

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seriously. She would begin her own
search for her missing sister. What she

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learned was disturbing. She found out
that Liliam had moved out of her roommate's

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home and left no information about her
whereabouts. She would eventually also find her

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sister's car and possessions. Someone had
busted out all the windows and Liliam's car,

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but Liliam was nowhere to be found. Juliana would also find out that

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her sister had a stalker who was
obsessed with her. He was in the

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country illegally and constantly asked Liliam to
be his girlfriend. She wasn't interested,

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and allegedly he had said if she
wasn't going to be with him, she

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wasn't going to be with anyone else, and it's believed that this rejection may

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have led to what would eventually happen
to her. An anonymous woman would reach

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out to Juliana and tell her what
she believed happened to Lilian. According to

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this informant, Liliam Stalker and his
brother had murdered and dismembered Lilian and buried

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her body parts throughout Jerome, Juliana
has kept in touch with the detective handling

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her sister's case. She has shared
all of her tips and provided the detective

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with names and other vital information.
According to Juliana, both men are currently

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incarcerated and will most likely be deported
after serving their sentences. Julianna has said

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that she has a small glimmer of
hope that her older sister is still alive,

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but she also said that she's a
realist and believes the story about her

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sister being killed and dismembered and now
on with the story of Lilian Gomez as

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told by her younger sister, Julianna
Gomez. I guess my sister was always

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like the perfect daughter in our family. She was a straight a student,

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always in school, always receiving awards
for her talent that was like drawing and

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coloring, and she was always like
the goody two shots I guess in the

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family, up and tell about when
my parents started to get a divorced.

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My dad has always been like an
alcoholic and stuff like that, and I

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think my mom had enough of it, and my mom wanted to separate from

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my dad. And at that time, I was struggling with drug addiction and

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some drug problems and problems with the
law, and I would bring like a

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law of drugs to the house.
But at that time, none of my

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friends would pay attention to us.
And my mom eventually left when I was

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thirteen, and I would say she
was about fifteen sixteen, and I think

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her life took a turn then she
started missing school, not paying attention,

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but grades started to become low.
And my mom had left to Guatemala where

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she is currently at right now,
and she gave my sister a call and

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told her that she was adopted.
Now, up until then, we always

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thought we were sisters, and we
always had a close relationship like sisters.

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We never saw a difference between each
other or the way her parents treated us.

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And my mom told her she was
adopted. She was born in one

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of Malla. She was the only
one born out of the state, and

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so she decided to look for her
parents and she was mad at our parents

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were lying to her, and so
just a divorce and and her finding out

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that she was adopted, I guess
kind of bottled all up on her.

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In she started using drugs and falling
into addiction. Prior to that, she

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never had any problems with the law. Like I said, she was always

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the good daughter in the family.
And she started to struggle. And at

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that time, I was in Jube
sturbing time, and I got tent to

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think, and I was like,
somebody has to look over my sister and

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my brother, and so I decided
to change at that moment, and I

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was like, I have to fix
up my act, and I needed to

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take care of him because my dad
has been going to because he was just

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focused on getting drunk. I don't
think there was one day that he would

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not drink. And so when I
got out, unfortunately, I was a

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little too late for my sister.
She was hooked on messimphetamine and so we

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would never see her. She started
to not go to school, not show

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up at the house, and only
show up when she needed stead. Now

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your parents are they both currently in
Guatemala. Yes, my dad eventually got

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deported. So how did your family
end up settling in Jerome, Idaho.

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Tell me about that. We always
lived in Jerome ever since we were young.

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I think we moved a couple of
times. So most of her life

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we've always lived in Jerome. So
I'm guessing what my parents came from Guatemala.

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They just lived in Jerome. That's
just a place we've groom her whole

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life. So are you and your
siblings American citizens? No? No,

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no, we are the Only one
that was born in Guatemala was Liliam.

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There's six of us, including Lilliam
and I, and so five of us

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were born in twin Fall died at
home and Liliam was born in Guatemala.

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Did she become a citizen. She
was in the process of becoming a citizen

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when she started to get in trouble
with the law. She landed in immigration

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pens and she was up in Tacoma, Washington, in the immigration jail where

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she caught an infection that sent her
to the hospital and she was in multiple

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surgeries and died during the surgery.
But then they gave recipier. I don't

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know how they went, but she
was battling with the surgeries and then mcgrad

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Gails I guess in a way,
you didn't want us to sue them for

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the infection that she caught in the
gael And they told her that she was

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going to be released under house arrest
and that they were going to be in

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the process of giving her her citizenship
and fixing her papers. So we were

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in the process of doing that.
So was she excited about that? I

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mean that had to be something to
be proud of. I mean, to

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become an American citizen is something pretty
special. Yeah, she was. I

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know, she stayed clean for like
a year, and I think as long

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as she didn't have social media.
My sister was a big social media person.

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There was not a time that she
could not be on her Facebook or

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anything like that. And so I
think that was the biggest problem with her,

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is staying away from her friends.
That used as well because she was

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in recovery at it was housing into
a fall. She was there through her

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recovery for a couple of months and
they started to give her a tablet and

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more liberty to do stuff. And
when she got the tablet, we started

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noticing her fall back into drugs.
So she had a lot of bad influences

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in her life. Is that what
you're saying. Yeah, she did,

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and they would show up. We
had talked to the place where she was

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staying at and we told her nobody
is allowed to visit her, only us,

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her family and my uncle. And
I'm not sure how her friends would

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pick her up, because then we
received a call like, oh, she's

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not here anymore, and it was
because of the tablet that was given to

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her. She might have gone in
contact with whoever and she would fall back

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into her addiction again. So tell
me about your relationship with your sister.

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Are you the oldest sister? No, she was the oldest. I'm the

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second oldest. Okay, so she
was the oldest. So tell me about

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your relationship with her. Were you
both really close? Did you confide in

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each other about everything? We were
at one point close. When I was

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using we started to distance to each
other and she was a lot closer to

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one of my cousins. But we'd
have her sister fights, but we would

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always seem to find each other in
the end to talk about stuff and bond

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as a sister. We were close, but some days we got into fights

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or I would be jealous of her
and be like, well, everybody seems

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like you're the good one, and
I'm always getting criticized for everything I'm doing,

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and little do they know that You're
starting to do it too. And

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I would just kind of pick fights
with her, but she would always come

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back. She was like a second
mom to all of us. It sounds

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to me as if she was a
really kind and loving person who really loved

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her family. But unfortunately, the
darker side of life has those demons that

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get a hold of us, and
sometimes they can be hard to get away

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from. It could come in the
form of drugs or alcohol, but these

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type of vices just destroy the lives
of so many good people. As you

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probably know now, when you and
your siblings we're all living here in Idaho,

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who was looking out for you?
I know you said that your mother

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eventually moved back to Guatemala, and
then your father eventually ended up going back

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to Guatemala. So were you all
here alone? Who took care of you

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during this time? So we grew
up with our parents. Like I said,

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my mom left. My mom took
half of my siblings, so my

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sister and my brother's whore twins,
She took them to Guatemala. And when

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did your mother return to Guatemala left
about nine years ago. I was thirteen

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when she left, and I'm twent
out to be twenty two. And how

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did you and your siblings feel about
your mom's decision to return to Guatemala.

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Were you all happy staying here or
did you want to go back with her?

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I wanted to go with her,
but she told me I was going

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to stay with my dad. She
didn't want to take my older sister,

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Liliam because of her immigration status she
didn't have papers. And then my brother,

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who I have legal guardianship of now, he didn't want to go with

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my mom. So US three stayed
behind with my dad and she left with

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my other three siblings. Now,
how did that work out for the family?

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Were you upset about that? I
mean you just lost your siblings and

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your mom or were you okay with
it? I was pretty upset. I

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think that's when I started to rebel
and do everything that I did. I

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actually had gotten into my very first
fight in school because I thought getting charges

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and getting a court date would not
make my mom leave like she would have

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to stay with me because I have
to go to court type being. So

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I did that and it didn't work
out that way, No, Unfortunately I

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didn't. My dad attended my courts
and my mom still up. That's a

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pretty dramatic change in your family structure, and I think I can understand why

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you and your sister or even your
brother might have had issues and possibly gotten

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into drugs or bad behavior, because
big changes like that can affect people and

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sometimes lead to drug or alcohol abuse. These dramatic changes happening all at once,

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and then on top of that,
you said your father being an alcoholic

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and not necessarily looking out for the
family as he should have. Combine that

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with your mother leaving, it could
not have been a good thing for the

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family. Definitely wasn't Now that I'm
going back and like realizing everything we went

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through, it was definitely traumatic and
sadly there was no one there to look

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after us. We still currently have
two uncles that live in the area close,

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but none of them cared for us
much to get us out of what

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we were or going to seek us
help. I guess something my dad could

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have done, but him being an
alcoholic, didn't realize that we were dealing

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with the same pain he was.
Yeah, and then he eventually went back,

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of course, as you said,
Yeah, so he eventually got deported,

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and that's how I ended up with
a goal guardianship with my brother because

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he had found himself a girlfriend,
took my brother and I out of the

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house and decided to move in his
new girlfriend her kids to the house.

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And I had been dating my husband
for a year at the time, and

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I called my uncle and I was
like, can you take care of my

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brother? I need to find a
pose to sleep and like a house to

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get my brother because we were basically
picked out of the house. And so

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my husband he's like, let me
talk to my parents and people we can

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do and I told him to me
and my brother, it's not just me

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and my in laws took guardianship.
My dad gave up guardianship of us to

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my in laws. And then once
I turned inteen and I ended up with

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my brother as well. And at
this time, it's when Liliam was out

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of the house and been only coming
to the house a couple of times when

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she needed to change or when she
needed to shower stuff like that, where

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he was mainly out of the house. Prior to March twenty twenty, Liliam

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had always kept in touch with her
family and she always loved to post on

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her Facebook pages. But once Liliam
stopped posting on social media and stopped texting

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her family, Juliana knew that something
had happened to her beloved sister. I'll

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share her thoughts on her sister's disappearance
after a brief break. Now, when

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was the last time you saw Liliam? I want to say a couple of

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weeks before my birthday, March first
of two thousand and twenty. I believe,

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okay, because when I was looking
at nemess and other pages, I

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saw that the last time anyone had
seen her was March sixth, twenty twenty.

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Does that sound correct? I know
sometimes the sites put out bad information,

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so I just wanted to confirm that
March sixth, So you saw her

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shortly before she disappeared. What did
you talk about the last time he talked

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to her? I don't really remember. My sister was working with my husband's

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aunt at a potato place in Twin
Falls, and she would come over and

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we would spend the day together at
my in lost house, and she would

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talk to my husband's aunt because they
got really super close when they started working

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with each other, and we just
talked about I had fun to go to

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Utah for my birthday, and I
think we talked about her coming, and

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she was living with one of my
uncles at the time, and she's like,

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oh, you might need task for
permission to see if I could go.

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So I think that was a ask
conversation about how she was going to

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come or my birthday to celebrate my
birthday, and of course she never made

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it. Now, now, when
she talked to you, did she sense

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that there was anything wrong? Did
she seem worried or concerned about anything.

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Was anybody bothering her? Did she
tell you anything anything that she was in

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danger? She never really told me
she was endangered. I know she tried

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to hide the fact that she was
using again because I would talk to her

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about it. I was like,
Liliam, I'm not stupid. I been

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through there. I know how how
people look when they fall back into using

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drugs and stuff. I was there. I did need you to tell me.

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But she was always trying to hide
up from us, especially with my

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brother, because my brother didn't talk
to her or didn't want nothing to do

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with her because of the way that
she was using. So she was always

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trying to hide it. I know
a couple of times she talked to me

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about her talking to her real mom
and her real dad, and she mentioned

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the guy that she didn't know.
She would always talk about how this guy

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would show up wherever she was at
and text her and be like, hey,

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I'm outside or hey come outside,
I know you're in here, or

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something like that. I didn't take
it as something serious. I'm like,

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Liliam, you're just probably paranoid or
something like that, because she was really

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really paranoid when she was using Sou's
like, Liliam, you just need to

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stop overthinking that you're just being paranoid, and she's like, no, he

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always followed me, and I don't
know who he is. I don't text

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them. I've been at houses where
he's at because he's a current user as

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well. But I never talked to
him for him to be following me or

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anything like that. But I always
thought it was her being too paranoid to

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notice that nobody was following her or
no, but he was actually like bully

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after her. The way she would
describe it, how did you get her

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number? Then it would be through
Facebook. She put her phone number on

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Facebook. No no, no,
through Messenger, oh, okay, messenger

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got it. So after she disappeared, did you think to yourself that there

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could have been something to her fears
about a stalker? Perhaps there was really

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somebody stalking her. I know she
wasn't sure at the time, but in

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your mind, did you start to
think, Okay, there could have really

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been something to this. I did. I started to blame myself actually,

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because that she was trying to tell
me and ask for help, and I

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never I never saw it because I
was too over my head with her and

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her addiction that I never wanted to
believe anything she would say. Did she

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ever call the police or following type
of police report? She didn't file it

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before because she was using, so
she was scared. I'm guessing of her

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being about using and how they were
like every time he would show up,

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they would be at like a house
where they were using and smoking. So

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she never told me she filed anything. Now, what about your husband's aunt.

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They did work together at this potato
plant, correct, Yes, I

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mean if you said they had gotten
close. Did she know anything about this?

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Did she ever see this guy or
anything? She never saw this guy.

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She noticed Lilium going the law to
a truck on her break. She

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would always tell me, She's like, oh, do you know why your

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sisters or who this guy is or
why your sisters talking to this guy?

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Because she would mention to me that
there was this old guy that would bring

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her food and stuff to her job
and that she would always go out there

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and during her lunch and kinda like
and the whole lunch I were there,

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and my husband's that would be like, hey, you need to eat they

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in here, or what are you
doing with that guy? How do you

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know that guy? And my sister
would get mad at at my husband's dad

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and she would just tell her I
know what I'm doing, don't worry about

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what I'm doing. And my husband's
that would be like, what do you

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mean if you don't tell me who
that is, I'm going to tell your

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sister, and she would get mad
my husband's that for doing that. But

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I do remember quite a bit of
times that my husband' dad would come and

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be like, hey, I always
see your sister with this guy and there's

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people around the job. I'd say, that guy is not like a good

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guy. And I don't know if
she wants to tell you if you want

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to ask her, And at one
point I did ask her and she got

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mad about it. She's like,
I don't know why she's going to you

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and telling you stuff when it's none
of your visitors. Yeah. Now,

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this guy that she was having lunch
with, this wasn't the same guy that

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was stalking her, right, you
said this was an older man. No,

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this wasn't the same guy. Okay. Did you ever find out who

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this guy was? This older guy? Yeah? So she had a friend

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that was quite older that had the
same white trucks like my husband's that would

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describe and I didn't put two and
two together until she disappeared. He would

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be around all the time and he
was older, and rumor had it that

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he would give her drugs for free
so that she could do whatever with him.

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But I never knew if it was
the truth or not. Okay,

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So how did she find out that
Lilliam was missing? Tell me about that.

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So I had woken up on my
birthday with her with the message on

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messenger that she sent me seven thirty
four am. She just said happy birthday,

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sister, and I texted her back
at three or four that afternoon the

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second day on March second, just
telling her thank you, sister, and

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that same day, March second,
at three thirty five, she said,

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I love you a law I'm sorry
I didn't get to go to your house,

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and then I texted her. I
didn't reply till days after, and

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I only texted her her back because
my aunt had called me on March this.

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I believe she had called me.
She said, hey, have you

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heard anything about your sister? Like
I, she's not saying that the house

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anymore. She had recently moved out. We've would always call her and keep

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in touch, and she would always
answer her calls, and your uncle would

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always ask how she's doing it.
But she's like, it's been a couple

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of days since she hasn't picked up
any of her calls. And I was

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like, I honestly haven't tucked her
her back. I was like, I

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men spurred her last on March second, but I never on the back to

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what she told me. And she's
like, well, try and call her

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and see if she picks your call
up, because she's nine for uber balls

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and she's probably just mad at So
I started calling her and I texted her

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and she didn't respond, and then
about the second day I texted her again

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and no, response, and then
I finally texted her messenger and I was

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like, hey, how how have
you been, sister? Like Mom's been

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NonStop asking for you all that.
We hope you're doing well and remember we

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love you. And that was March
tenth, and then March twelve, I

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texted her again, Hey, I'm
getting worried. I haven't heard from you

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in a while. I hope you're
good, sister, and I love you

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a lot. Ever, forget that
and please message me and let me know

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you're okay. And no response,
And then I started to call my uncle

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and I was like, hey,
like, did do you ever get a

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call back? Or has she tested
you? And I hit up a couple

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of her friends. I messaged them
and I was like, have you guys

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heard anything about Lilian? And nobody
had heard anything. It was like nobody

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saw her, nobody knew where she
was at, or nobody wanted to say

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anything. And so I filed the
report. And what police department did you

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file with? Did your own police
department? Okay, so you file the

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missing person's report with them? And
what did they tell you when you first

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made your report? It first asked
me for her age and I let them

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know that she was twenty one,
and they're like, well, are you

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sure she didn't run away with her
boyfriend or she just left the state to

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do her life or anything like that. I'm more than positive she did not

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leave with anybody. I was like, this is weird for her not to

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be on social media. I repeated
that multiple times. It's super weird that

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she's not answering me or any of
us or connected on her Facebook at all.

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And I was like, she's like
missing, and they're like, WHOA,

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we can go ahead and file it, but we need seventy two hours

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until they can actually like air it
out and stuff like that, or like

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post it and start actually looking for
her. That's a long time. Three

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days. Yeah, So I was
like, I guess I could file it.

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I'm more than positive that she did
not leave with anybody. And so

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later that day police came to our
house. I filed a report. He

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started asking questions as far as friends, contact, car information, cell phone

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number, and I gave that information
to them. And in your opinion,

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did they take the report seriously?
Honestly, when I filed that report,

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I felt like I was taken as
a joke just because of my age.

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And nobody else basically backing me up
as far as a parent or an adult.

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Even my mother in law was like, are they even taking me serious?

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Because it doesn't seem like they are. There was no search done or

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there was no pinking of phones or
anything like that. I had to go

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with one of my cousins and she's
like, hey, like we could make

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up flyers, and I was like, okay, we'll do flyers. We

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did flyers, went to Jerome and
most of them everywhere, and I don't

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think they ever did anything until the
day that we went to the Maverick and

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Jerome and the girl's like, hey, sister, your sister right And I

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was like, yeah, like we
think she's missing. Do you recognize her?

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And she's like yeah. And I
was putting a flyer somewhere and my

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cousin called me and she's like,
hey, I think they might have seen

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your sister recently. And so I
go to Maverick and they told me that

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did your sister have any brothers?
I was like, we only have one,

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but he's usually with me, and
she's like, well, a couple

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of days ago she came in with
two guys to this Maverick and so that's

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what I called. Now you mentioned
Maverick. What's Maverick. Maverick is a

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gas station in Jerome. Okay,
Yeah, it's a gas station in Jerome.

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And so I called the Jerome Police
Department and I told them, hey,

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like, I am posting flowers of
my sister and we came across this

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gas station and they say that they
just recently saw my sister's shop for some

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stuff with two guys, and they
might have video footage, but they are

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not allowed to show it to us. They're only allowed to show it if

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it's an open investigation. And so
we waited there with my cousin, and

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I didn't get to see the video. Only the police department went back there

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with the employee and they looked through
videos on those like, well, we

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don't have anything clear that actually shows
us the face of your sister, but

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there is the footage of a girl
that comes in with two guys, so

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they see that. They just don't
know if it was your sister. Correct.

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Did they ask you to confirm whether
it was your sister or not?

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They didn't. They told me I
couldn't review the video until they had a

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clear image, So I guess they
never got a clear image, and then

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yeah, they never did. They
saw the car she went in. And

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then once the police department left,
we still stayed behind and the employees like,

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is this you're a private investigator,
And I was like, I just

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recently filed a missing person with this
police department. And I was like,

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I'm not sure how it goes.
I've never had this happen. She's like,

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that was a bit strange that they
didn't ask you to see if that

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was your sister, like if you
recognized her, right, And I was

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like, it really was, but
I don't know how it goes. Maybe

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it's part of their investigation. Even
though employee telling me that was a ratified

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for me, I was like,
okay, Like are they actually taking me

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serious? I always like to ask
that because a lot of times the people

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I speak to will tell me we
reported our loved one missing. But I

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don't think they took it very seriously. I think maybe they try saying,

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oh, well, he or she
probably just ran off, or they're off

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just doing something. They're out partying, but don't be worried about it,

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they'll come back. They take that
approach instead of saying, hey, this

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could be serious. Maybe we need
to get out and start looking for this

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person. From what I understand,
the story about them just running off seems

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to be the most common with law
enforcement. In short, unless it's a

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small child. In many cases,
the report's not taken seriously. No,

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it's not. It's easier just to
say that the victim wandered off on their

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own. So when your sister disappeared, did you even consider that she ran

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away? Or were you probably more
sure that something happened to her, because

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there's no way she would just leave
without talking to her family. What were

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your thoughts when she disappeared? My
first thoughts were, she's actually missing?

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Is this actually real? Or am
I overthinking it? Maybe she left with

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somebody and she didn't want to like
let us know. But then again,

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like I said, my sister was
super addicted to social media, Like there

410
00:34:25.239 --> 00:34:30.199
was not one day she could not
go on social media. Even if she

411
00:34:30.280 --> 00:34:34.159
had to spend days outside of a
library to get Wi Fi to get on

412
00:34:34.199 --> 00:34:38.400
her social media, she would.
It was her theme. And so the

413
00:34:38.599 --> 00:34:44.280
moment I started to realize that this
is actually what happening she's missing is when

414
00:34:44.320 --> 00:34:47.000
I never saw her connect to her
social media or never respond back to any

415
00:34:47.039 --> 00:34:51.159
of her messages. Now, she
does have her Facebook page still up,

416
00:34:51.159 --> 00:34:52.800
doesn't she? Because I think I
looked at it. Yeah, she has

417
00:34:52.920 --> 00:35:00.440
multiple Facebook pages. What's the day
of her last posting over all of her

418
00:35:00.679 --> 00:35:04.840
pages? Which? What's the final
date did she posted something? So the

419
00:35:05.000 --> 00:35:12.960
last time she posted something March fifth, twenty twenty. Okay, So you're

420
00:35:12.960 --> 00:35:15.840
telling me that there's no way she'd
go to this along without posting something.

421
00:35:16.320 --> 00:35:21.519
Correct. Unfortunately, that's probably not
a very good sign that she's still alive.

422
00:35:22.519 --> 00:35:25.320
Yeah. Yeah, And after prepared
to myself for the worst, I

423
00:35:25.320 --> 00:35:30.480
mean, I still have hope she
might be alive, but I know reality,

424
00:35:30.840 --> 00:35:37.199
people just don't go missing for this
long and turn out alive, especially

425
00:35:37.199 --> 00:35:40.320
not at her age, right,
or you know, not post on social

426
00:35:40.360 --> 00:35:46.320
media or just not contact the family. Those are just definitely red flags that

427
00:35:46.480 --> 00:35:52.440
something happened to her. Now,
where did she live before she disappeared?

428
00:35:52.519 --> 00:35:57.599
Did she live with your husband's aunt
and then she moved out? No,

429
00:35:57.719 --> 00:36:00.920
she had got our ampouse in Dural, Okay. And when did she move

430
00:36:00.920 --> 00:36:06.079
out? I think she had moved
out. I want to save February or

431
00:36:06.119 --> 00:36:12.159
the beginning to February of twenty twenty. She disappeared in twenty twenty. March

432
00:36:12.239 --> 00:36:16.719
sixth, twenty twenty. Last messages
that I have with her and when I

433
00:36:16.760 --> 00:36:22.000
filed a report was of March of
twenty twenty. Okay. And then you

434
00:36:22.079 --> 00:36:28.239
said she moved out of your aunt's
house in February of twenty twenty. Yeah,

435
00:36:28.280 --> 00:36:32.599
so like a month or so prior
to my birthday. Okay. Where

436
00:36:32.679 --> 00:36:37.719
was she going to move to?
She was going to move to her co

437
00:36:37.880 --> 00:36:42.599
worker's house. It was near my
uncle's house on the outskirts of Jerome.

438
00:36:43.280 --> 00:36:46.760
It was probably a couple of miles
from my uncle's house. And she made

439
00:36:46.760 --> 00:36:52.840
it there. I assume she did. I know that my uncle had gone

440
00:36:52.840 --> 00:36:55.920
to visit her and see how she
doing a couple of times. And how

441
00:36:57.000 --> 00:37:00.880
was she when he visited her.
How is she doing? Wasn't doing too

442
00:37:00.920 --> 00:37:07.000
good? My uncle told, hey, I think your sister's using again because

443
00:37:07.039 --> 00:37:13.679
of the way she looked to him. I never actually visited or at that

444
00:37:13.840 --> 00:37:17.559
house. We kind of always just
come to my house. Do you know

445
00:37:17.639 --> 00:37:23.039
anything about this roommate? How many
roommates did she have? I I am

446
00:37:23.079 --> 00:37:29.480
not sure. I want to say
one. Was it a guy? Yeah,

447
00:37:29.519 --> 00:37:31.199
it was a guy. Did you
know anything about this guy? Did

448
00:37:31.239 --> 00:37:35.960
he have a criminal record? Was
you a drug user? I didn't know

449
00:37:36.119 --> 00:37:39.559
much about him. I knew that
he worked at the dairy that she was

450
00:37:39.599 --> 00:37:45.159
working at, but I didn't know
if he was a drug user, if

451
00:37:45.159 --> 00:37:51.360
he wasn't, or who he was
exactly. She didn't like to tell me

452
00:37:51.440 --> 00:37:53.599
that. I guess if he was
using, she wasn't going to tell me

453
00:37:53.679 --> 00:38:00.719
he was. Now have you spoken
to this guy since she disappeared? I

454
00:38:00.760 --> 00:38:06.719
have not spoken to him. My
uncle's went to his house and until my

455
00:38:06.800 --> 00:38:08.920
guests and like, has she been
here or where all her stuff and stuff

456
00:38:08.960 --> 00:38:14.920
like that? And all that guy
told my uncle was that she had gone

457
00:38:15.239 --> 00:38:19.760
to live somewhere else a couple of
days ago or a couple of weeks ago.

458
00:38:20.320 --> 00:38:23.719
And she didn't tell anybody correct.
Correct? That sounds suspicious to me.

459
00:38:24.719 --> 00:38:30.000
Who just does that? And all
of her stuff was gone, Yes,

460
00:38:30.159 --> 00:38:34.000
all of her stuff was gone,
including Kurk Carr has a carbon recovered.

461
00:38:35.159 --> 00:38:39.480
We did. We found her car
as a trailer in Jerome, but

462
00:38:39.599 --> 00:38:44.559
it wasn't that guy's house, and
all her clothes and stuff were there too,

463
00:38:45.679 --> 00:38:50.800
was in the trailer or in her
car and the trailer whose trailer was

464
00:38:50.840 --> 00:38:55.960
this? I had no idea whose
trailer was this. I found out because

465
00:38:57.000 --> 00:39:00.800
this girl had messaged me on messenger
and like, hey, like I saw

466
00:39:00.840 --> 00:39:05.800
that you posted that your sister's missing. She's like, I know this is

467
00:39:05.840 --> 00:39:08.800
weird, but I'm really good at
friends with your sister. And she's like,

468
00:39:09.079 --> 00:39:13.280
I want to try and help you
find your sister. And I was

469
00:39:13.320 --> 00:39:15.800
like, okay, I protect her
and stuff like that. Her or she

470
00:39:15.840 --> 00:39:20.000
hasn't seen any of my messages or
anything like that, and she's like,

471
00:39:20.119 --> 00:39:22.800
well, everybody's where she's got.
But she's like, I might have an

472
00:39:22.800 --> 00:39:28.639
idea of where her dust might be. And so that was that, and

473
00:39:28.679 --> 00:39:32.079
then I receive a call from her
a day. One day, I receive

474
00:39:32.119 --> 00:39:35.360
a call from her. She's she's
like, hey, video call me when

475
00:39:35.440 --> 00:39:37.679
as you can, and I have
video callar She's like her calls here,

476
00:39:37.719 --> 00:39:43.039
but it's not in good condition,
and she's like, can you answer my

477
00:39:43.199 --> 00:39:45.519
video call? And I answered.
She's like, it looks like somebody tried

478
00:39:45.519 --> 00:39:50.960
to break in her car and her
car had broken windows, Like if they

479
00:39:50.960 --> 00:39:52.519
were trying to break in her car, if she had locked her car and

480
00:39:52.559 --> 00:39:58.000
somebody was trying to really get in
her car. The ignition was off,

481
00:39:58.480 --> 00:40:00.840
the front windows were broken, the
side windows and the driver windows were all

482
00:40:00.840 --> 00:40:06.280
broken on the stoor, like they
had tried to open it with some kind

483
00:40:06.280 --> 00:40:10.519
of metal bar or something. Did
the police impound that car? Yes,

484
00:40:10.639 --> 00:40:15.199
they still currently have that car.
That's good because they can keep it in

485
00:40:15.199 --> 00:40:19.800
search for evidence. But you probably
don't know if they've found anything, because

486
00:40:19.800 --> 00:40:22.960
I don't doubt if they would tell
you. I know that they found something.

487
00:40:22.280 --> 00:40:28.199
I just can't say because it kind
of ruins their investigation. He only

488
00:40:28.239 --> 00:40:30.599
told me, Yeah, he told
me they found something, but that I

489
00:40:30.639 --> 00:40:35.800
wasn't allowed to say. Okay,
that makes sense. So how often do

490
00:40:35.920 --> 00:40:42.320
you follow up with police on this? Right now? Detective Olson from Jural

491
00:40:43.000 --> 00:40:46.880
is on her taste and I keep
in touch with him. Towards the beginning

492
00:40:46.960 --> 00:40:52.800
of her disappearance. I would send
him screenshot of people telling me stuff.

493
00:40:52.320 --> 00:40:59.079
Obviously, people all have a story
of what might have happened, and to

494
00:40:59.199 --> 00:41:02.000
me, there was multiple things that
could have happened to her. So I

495
00:41:02.000 --> 00:41:07.159
would always reach out those messages that
I would receive from people, and I

496
00:41:07.199 --> 00:41:09.320
would send them to him, and
I would do my own search and I

497
00:41:09.320 --> 00:41:14.519
would search up the people that they
named and stamp pictures and stuff like that.

498
00:41:15.239 --> 00:41:19.480
Everything that was coming to me I
was sending to him, and he

499
00:41:19.519 --> 00:41:22.119
would be like, if these people
really want to help, they need to

500
00:41:22.159 --> 00:41:28.280
be willing to sign a statement and
go in. But the people that would

501
00:41:28.280 --> 00:41:32.119
tell me were users as well,
and they would always tell like, Hey,

502
00:41:32.199 --> 00:41:35.800
I don't want to be appointed as
a snitch and I don't want to

503
00:41:35.800 --> 00:41:39.119
go in or be questioned. I
don't They would want to remain anonymous,

504
00:41:39.199 --> 00:41:43.840
And at that time I was desperate
to know everything, and I was like,

505
00:41:44.280 --> 00:41:49.079
Okay, I won't say anything or
who you are if you tell me,

506
00:41:49.119 --> 00:41:52.519
just tell me what's going on.
I won't mention you. I won't

507
00:41:52.519 --> 00:41:55.119
tell him who you are or anything
like that. All I care about is

508
00:41:55.119 --> 00:42:01.159
finding my sister. After Lilium vanished, Anna told me that she began receiving

509
00:42:01.199 --> 00:42:06.800
tips about her sister. One of
the most disturbing tips is that she was

510
00:42:06.920 --> 00:42:10.400
murdered by two brothers who were in
the country illegally. Allegedly, the men

511
00:42:10.559 --> 00:42:15.920
killed Liliam, dismembered her, and
have spread her body parts throughout Jerome.

512
00:42:15.599 --> 00:42:21.360
Liliam has shared this information with law
enforcement and believes it to be credible.

513
00:42:21.719 --> 00:42:27.239
She said that two brothers are currently
incarcerated, allegedly one of the brothers was

514
00:42:28.239 --> 00:42:34.039
Liliam stalker. Julianna is hopeful that
law enforcement will eventually get answers from the

515
00:42:34.119 --> 00:42:54.360
brothers before they are eventually deported.
Has anybody given you any information that you

516
00:42:54.599 --> 00:43:01.960
feel is probably the truth? One
of the stories kind of matched. So

517
00:43:02.079 --> 00:43:07.800
this person had told me that the
guy that would follow her was obsessed with

518
00:43:07.800 --> 00:43:15.840
her and he wanted Lilliam to be
his girlfriend, and Liliam didn't want to,

519
00:43:15.039 --> 00:43:22.119
and that he had made a comment
one day saying if Lilian wasn't going

520
00:43:22.199 --> 00:43:25.840
to be for him, Lilian wasn't
going to be for anybody. And they

521
00:43:25.920 --> 00:43:32.840
had this person told me that he
took her and shot her in the head

522
00:43:34.679 --> 00:43:38.280
and buried her for no one to
find her. And you'd think that's credible.

523
00:43:39.239 --> 00:43:43.159
At the time, I didn't.
I was like, you know what,

524
00:43:44.199 --> 00:43:49.920
there's multiple stories of Lilian being dead, and yes, there is a

525
00:43:50.000 --> 00:43:54.039
possibility of Lilian being dead, but
there was always a different story. Oh,

526
00:43:54.159 --> 00:43:57.440
they beat her up and they chopped
her up, and they buried her

527
00:43:57.440 --> 00:44:01.360
in different places, or they shot
her in the head and they threw her

528
00:44:01.440 --> 00:44:07.440
an acid, or they buried her
under cows at a dairy and there was

529
00:44:07.480 --> 00:44:12.400
just multiple stories of how Liliam was
dead. And so I was like,

530
00:44:12.400 --> 00:44:15.639
Okay, I don't know who to
believe. Everybody's telling me something different.

531
00:44:15.599 --> 00:44:20.880
Now, the guy talking about the
stalker guy I had read on read it

532
00:44:21.079 --> 00:44:27.320
that he was an undocumented person,
so he may have been in the country

533
00:44:27.360 --> 00:44:30.519
illegally. Do you know anything about
that? Yeah, so he was.

534
00:44:30.599 --> 00:44:37.480
He had came in to the US
illegally to save his life basically. So

535
00:44:38.480 --> 00:44:45.039
what I've investigated is that he was
a part of a cartel in Mexico and

536
00:44:45.880 --> 00:44:52.079
he was escaping from the gartel because
he did something and they were looking for

537
00:44:52.159 --> 00:44:55.280
him in Mexico to kill him.
They're still waiting for him, and so

538
00:44:55.480 --> 00:45:01.679
he had came here. He recently
was arrested for shooting a guy in Jerome

539
00:45:02.239 --> 00:45:08.079
and he's still serving his years in
jail right now. And this happened after

540
00:45:08.119 --> 00:45:14.079
your sister disappeared. Correct, Correct? And I told the investigator, I

541
00:45:14.159 --> 00:45:16.440
was like, hey, can we
question how am or is there a way

542
00:45:16.480 --> 00:45:21.159
that we can see stuff? And
he said, well, he's not currently

543
00:45:21.199 --> 00:45:25.400
like in Jerome or in Therereo or
somewhere that we can be and he hasn't

544
00:45:25.400 --> 00:45:30.480
said anything or confessed to anything,
and I was like, Okay, well,

545
00:45:30.519 --> 00:45:34.760
I guess it's just a waiting game
because he's eventually get deported, and

546
00:45:35.760 --> 00:45:42.000
so it's just like a waiting game
for me. And his brother recently got

547
00:45:42.000 --> 00:45:45.599
into jail. He was in jail
multiple times, and a rumor has it

548
00:45:45.719 --> 00:45:52.480
that his brother actually helped him get
rid of Lillium. You know, after

549
00:45:52.599 --> 00:45:59.880
you mentioned the two brothers allegedly being
seen with your sister, this takes me

550
00:46:00.039 --> 00:46:06.480
back to what you were telling me
earlier about the sighting of your sister with

551
00:46:06.519 --> 00:46:12.280
two men at that Maverick gas station. That makes me really wonder is it

552
00:46:12.320 --> 00:46:16.599
possible that that was your sister with
those two men. I think it's a

553
00:46:16.599 --> 00:46:22.079
real possibility. Yeah. Yeah,
I didn't really pay much attention to the

554
00:46:22.119 --> 00:46:27.119
story of this guy shooting my sister. You know what, People just want

555
00:46:27.159 --> 00:46:30.039
to be a part of the story, and one of them has to be

556
00:46:30.079 --> 00:46:34.280
the truth. I'm sure Jerome's not
a very big area, is it.

557
00:46:35.159 --> 00:46:37.920
No, it's really not. And
I was at a party with my uncle

558
00:46:38.559 --> 00:46:43.639
and this guy said that he was
drinking with this guy that isn't Joe,

559
00:46:44.519 --> 00:46:49.280
that he was drinking with him and
a couple of us friends the stalker or

560
00:46:49.320 --> 00:46:53.519
the brother the stalker, and he
was drinking with him and his friends and

561
00:46:53.559 --> 00:46:59.000
the brother, so they were all
there, and that they were telling the

562
00:46:59.119 --> 00:47:05.119
story about how he had taken the
girl he was obsessed with out. He

563
00:47:05.159 --> 00:47:08.960
says that they dragged her out with
this girl and they took her to a

564
00:47:09.039 --> 00:47:14.880
field and they were smoking or whatever, and that my sister became too paranoid

565
00:47:14.920 --> 00:47:21.119
and she started to saying stuff and
just being really paranoid, and that he

566
00:47:21.199 --> 00:47:23.360
told her to get in the car, and she wasn't listening, and so

567
00:47:23.559 --> 00:47:28.360
that he started to hit her.
And the other guy that they were with,

568
00:47:28.480 --> 00:47:30.880
or the girl or whatever, like
the people that they were with,

569
00:47:30.920 --> 00:47:34.719
they're like, hey, don't don't
hit her, don't do that to her,

570
00:47:34.880 --> 00:47:38.440
just leave her, let her sober
up. The guy forced her into

571
00:47:38.440 --> 00:47:43.880
the car and he's like, you
need to, like stop with your crap.

572
00:47:43.960 --> 00:47:45.400
If you don't know how to smoke, then just don't smoke at all.

573
00:47:46.039 --> 00:47:49.960
And he's like, I wasn't really
paying attention to the story, but

574
00:47:50.800 --> 00:47:54.159
I heard them say a couple of
things, and then that he had hit

575
00:47:54.199 --> 00:47:59.480
her and she got out of the
car, she didn't want to get back

576
00:47:59.519 --> 00:48:04.039
in the car, and so he
ran her over. And then the other

577
00:48:04.079 --> 00:48:07.519
people started to freak out and that
he just got her in the car and

578
00:48:07.800 --> 00:48:13.159
left and after that they never saw
that girl again. So he's like,

579
00:48:13.599 --> 00:48:15.679
I'm not sure if this is your
sister or not. This is just the

580
00:48:15.719 --> 00:48:21.480
story that they were telling that.
They're just like wondering what had happened.

581
00:48:22.440 --> 00:48:24.159
And he's like, I'm not sure
if it's true or not. And so

582
00:48:24.360 --> 00:48:30.880
then this is the second time I'm
hearing the same story. Maybe there's a

583
00:48:30.920 --> 00:48:37.079
possibility this is what happened to her. And there was more people coming up

584
00:48:37.119 --> 00:48:39.880
as time went by, saying,
you know, we need to look into

585
00:48:40.000 --> 00:48:45.119
these brothers. What sounds like they
know something. Yeah, they just don't

586
00:48:45.880 --> 00:48:52.599
say exactly anything. It's really frustrating. And this is the story that I've

587
00:48:52.599 --> 00:48:57.920
heard most of the times that I've
mentioned. I received a call about six

588
00:48:57.960 --> 00:49:01.199
months ago and she's like, I
know that you don't know me, and

589
00:49:02.239 --> 00:49:05.760
I don't want to say my name
or anything, but I need to tell

590
00:49:05.800 --> 00:49:07.760
you something. And I was like, okay, I do do you tell

591
00:49:07.800 --> 00:49:10.440
me? You know, like I
don't care who you are if you want

592
00:49:10.440 --> 00:49:14.880
to remain anonymous, I'm totally okay
with it, and that is what we

593
00:49:14.960 --> 00:49:22.159
agree to. And she mentions the
brothers again and she says, they killed

594
00:49:22.199 --> 00:49:25.239
your sister. You don't want to
come up forward with it, and like

595
00:49:25.599 --> 00:49:29.719
the brother, not the one that
was obsessed with the sister, but the

596
00:49:29.760 --> 00:49:32.880
brothers that help. He is currently
in jail right now. He's like,

597
00:49:32.960 --> 00:49:37.920
you need to question him because he
was a part of the murder of your

598
00:49:37.920 --> 00:49:40.960
sister. She's like, and I
know that you've heard multiple stories, and

599
00:49:42.000 --> 00:49:45.880
I know that you're one drink of
it's the truth or not. But she's

600
00:49:45.880 --> 00:49:51.760
like, I need you to believe
me because I am sisters with the brother's

601
00:49:52.079 --> 00:49:54.920
wife. And I was like,
so, what you're telling me is they

602
00:49:55.000 --> 00:50:00.679
killed her, but you don't want
to tell me the truth. She's like,

603
00:50:00.760 --> 00:50:02.639
I don't know much. She's like, I'm gonna give my sister a

604
00:50:02.679 --> 00:50:07.800
call and see what she wants to
tell me. And his wife is in

605
00:50:07.920 --> 00:50:12.760
Mexico with his kids. She's like, she doesn't want to see who she

606
00:50:12.880 --> 00:50:15.920
is. She doesn't want to talk
to the detective or anything like that until

607
00:50:16.159 --> 00:50:21.199
she's daring key protection because she's afraid
of what they can do to her and

608
00:50:21.239 --> 00:50:23.559
her kids. And I was like, okay, well, I can see

609
00:50:23.599 --> 00:50:29.039
what I can do and see how
we can help. But I was like,

610
00:50:29.119 --> 00:50:35.760
I don't want nobody to be endangered
anymore, like having my sister disappeared.

611
00:50:35.760 --> 00:50:39.079
It's already enough. Wait on me. And she said, well,

612
00:50:40.000 --> 00:50:45.079
she kept giving me calls and she
would tell me. He was drunk one

613
00:50:45.159 --> 00:50:52.960
night and told his wife that his
brother had hit your sister in this party

614
00:50:53.000 --> 00:50:57.800
that they were at, and he
had hit her and knocked her out,

615
00:50:57.840 --> 00:51:01.719
and he was afraid that she was
not alivee anymore, and so he decided

616
00:51:01.760 --> 00:51:08.360
to shoot her, dismember her,
and bury her in different areas. And

617
00:51:08.400 --> 00:51:15.000
they're like his brother helped him bury
her, and she's like, he didn't

618
00:51:15.000 --> 00:51:19.360
want to talk to me anymore.
But he mentioned that he couldn't deal with

619
00:51:20.000 --> 00:51:23.679
having that to himself, like he
couldn't deal with like what they did to

620
00:51:23.719 --> 00:51:28.280
her, and that he wanted to
come out with the truth, but he

621
00:51:28.320 --> 00:51:32.000
didn't want to bring his brother under
And so I was like, okay,

622
00:51:32.320 --> 00:51:36.960
I told the detective, and the
detective like, I need this to be

623
00:51:37.000 --> 00:51:42.039
a written statement because if this is
the truth and we find your sister.

624
00:51:42.960 --> 00:51:47.119
We need to get him with something. And so I gave the detective phone

625
00:51:47.159 --> 00:51:50.880
number to her and I was like, you know what, you can call

626
00:51:50.960 --> 00:51:52.920
him. He doesn't need to know
your name. You can remain anonymous,

627
00:51:53.000 --> 00:51:58.079
you can private call him. And
I just really need you to make the

628
00:51:58.159 --> 00:52:01.920
statement, because if this is really
what happened to her, I need to

629
00:52:02.480 --> 00:52:07.920
have proof of what you're telling me. And so she did talk to the

630
00:52:07.920 --> 00:52:13.960
detective. They did make a statement. The detective called me later that she

631
00:52:14.079 --> 00:52:16.719
did call and they did make the
statement, and they have a video recorded

632
00:52:17.639 --> 00:52:22.039
of the phone call and everything like
that. Now, the only thing we're

633
00:52:22.119 --> 00:52:25.840
encountering is that nobody wants to say
where she's at, or nobody knows where

634
00:52:25.840 --> 00:52:30.159
she's at. They just know she's
dead, but they don't know where the

635
00:52:30.199 --> 00:52:36.320
body is. Yeah. Yeah,
And so this is when my mother in

636
00:52:36.400 --> 00:52:38.159
law's like, hey, you need
to start pressuring the detectives. You need

637
00:52:38.199 --> 00:52:43.440
to start telling him if we need
to go down there with you so they

638
00:52:43.440 --> 00:52:49.280
can take you seriously, then we
will. And so I started talking the

639
00:52:49.440 --> 00:52:52.360
detective. I was like, hey, I can do this, I can

640
00:52:52.360 --> 00:52:53.599
do that. They told me a
couple of different spots and I was like

641
00:52:53.639 --> 00:52:57.840
I have a raisor. I was
like, I'm going to go out there

642
00:52:58.360 --> 00:53:02.440
and check since us cat. I
was getting really frustrated. I was like,

643
00:53:02.440 --> 00:53:06.119
I am so sorry. I'm not
trying to be rude. I know

644
00:53:06.199 --> 00:53:08.119
that you have other things that you
have to do, but I need to

645
00:53:08.119 --> 00:53:13.039
find my sister. I'm sure the
family would like to give her a proper

646
00:53:13.079 --> 00:53:17.000
burial. Yeah, And so basically
he told me that he was going to

647
00:53:17.079 --> 00:53:23.760
go out there, and he had
gone to multiple places with cadaver dogs of

648
00:53:24.039 --> 00:53:29.800
people coming in because like, I'm
receiving constant calls and stuff about your sister

649
00:53:30.400 --> 00:53:34.880
and places. It's just that every
time I can get a call, it's

650
00:53:34.880 --> 00:53:38.280
always a different place. And he's
like, I'm out there with cadaver dogs.

651
00:53:38.280 --> 00:53:44.000
I'm out there on four wheelers searching, and he's like, the longer

652
00:53:44.719 --> 00:53:49.039
the time goes by, the hard
dri is going to get to find And

653
00:53:49.159 --> 00:53:53.320
so they had me go in for
DNA. But that's when I told him

654
00:53:53.320 --> 00:53:58.679
there's a possibility that my sister's adopted. I don't want to believe that she's

655
00:53:58.679 --> 00:54:01.440
adopted, but my mom is saying
it. And I've talked to my mom

656
00:54:01.599 --> 00:54:06.360
and I told her I'm not joking
anymore. This is something serious. She's

657
00:54:06.440 --> 00:54:10.440
missing. I need to know if
she's adopted or not. And so they

658
00:54:10.519 --> 00:54:17.880
grabbed my DNA and I did a
search for her family and I got her

659
00:54:17.920 --> 00:54:22.519
family's DNA in case she is adopted
and this is actually her family, I

660
00:54:22.599 --> 00:54:28.840
have DNA to prove if we have
a finder, we can match DNA's basically.

661
00:54:29.639 --> 00:54:32.800
Now, do you have any type
of social media presence for your sister?

662
00:54:32.960 --> 00:54:37.480
Is there a page on Facebook dedicated
to this case? There is not.

663
00:54:38.239 --> 00:54:43.719
I've been thinking about making one.
I just don't know where to start.

664
00:54:44.920 --> 00:54:46.559
I always recommend people to put up
a Facebook page. I mean,

665
00:54:46.559 --> 00:54:49.719
there's a lot of people that do
that, and they ask the tips and

666
00:54:49.719 --> 00:54:52.960
they ask people to share the page
and just put up pictures of her and

667
00:54:53.360 --> 00:54:58.360
any updates. And the other thing
you can do is put other cases on

668
00:54:58.400 --> 00:55:04.039
there too. That'll keep people come
back to see the new content. Yeah.

669
00:55:04.159 --> 00:55:07.159
Yeah, and just ask people.
If you know anything, just message

670
00:55:07.199 --> 00:55:09.480
me. I won't mention your name. I mean, if you know where

671
00:55:09.480 --> 00:55:14.360
she's buried, please tell me.
Just give me the information. I can

672
00:55:14.400 --> 00:55:15.519
give it to the police, but
I won't give them your name. I'll

673
00:55:15.599 --> 00:55:19.880
keep it private. Yeah, that's
all. I've been talking to my husband

674
00:55:19.920 --> 00:55:23.639
about making the Facebook page because just
recently, I'm not sure if you've heard

675
00:55:23.639 --> 00:55:30.480
about another case. This person his
name's Dylan Welln he went missing. Yes,

676
00:55:30.679 --> 00:55:34.239
I've heard of him. I actually
reached out to his family. I

677
00:55:34.280 --> 00:55:36.760
wanted to do the story about him, but they never got back to me.

678
00:55:37.639 --> 00:55:39.480
Yes, And I think that's where
I'm scared, because his family had

679
00:55:39.639 --> 00:55:45.440
a huge reward to whoever knew,
and I have a reward out there,

680
00:55:45.480 --> 00:55:47.000
but it's not as big as the
one they had. And it's like if

681
00:55:47.039 --> 00:55:52.159
nobody came up with the truth knowing
how much money was on the line,

682
00:55:52.320 --> 00:55:54.960
what are they going to do about
my small reward. I've just like doubt

683
00:55:55.000 --> 00:55:59.360
it myself. Well, you know
what, don't about yourself. Just put

684
00:55:59.400 --> 00:56:01.760
it out there. Just never know. You might have somebody out there that

685
00:56:02.360 --> 00:56:07.159
we'll see the information, see the
photos of your sister and just want to

686
00:56:07.159 --> 00:56:09.519
help. Even if you have a
small reward, then just go with it.

687
00:56:10.039 --> 00:56:14.800
Yeah, yeah, just do whatever
you can do. Put it on

688
00:56:14.840 --> 00:56:19.280
TikTok, make videos, just anything. I mean, social media is free,

689
00:56:19.280 --> 00:56:21.400
it doesn't cost you anything. Just
put it out there and see what

690
00:56:21.440 --> 00:56:25.159
happens. Oh yeah, and then
you can put the links on your Facebook

691
00:56:25.159 --> 00:56:30.079
page so people can check it out. And then I would also recommend that

692
00:56:30.159 --> 00:56:35.880
you contact your local media and ask
them to do a story. Like your

693
00:56:35.920 --> 00:56:40.880
sisters third anniversaries come up right March, so it'll be three years, so

694
00:56:42.079 --> 00:56:46.000
perhaps on the third year anniversary of
her disappearance, but your local news station

695
00:56:46.119 --> 00:56:52.639
or your local news purs could write
a story or interview you about your sister

696
00:56:52.480 --> 00:56:59.480
for the third year anniversary. I
have contact, though I've gone multiple contact

697
00:56:59.519 --> 00:57:04.760
to the news, the local movement, they simply just tell me that because

698
00:57:04.760 --> 00:57:08.440
it's an open plase, they need
to contact Jerome Police Department and see if

699
00:57:08.480 --> 00:57:13.000
they're able to air out the story
to where it is still an open investigation,

700
00:57:13.480 --> 00:57:15.559
and then I never hear back.
The other thing you can do is

701
00:57:15.559 --> 00:57:20.559
you can probably reach out to other
podcasters and see if they'll do the story.

702
00:57:20.679 --> 00:57:24.280
And now you said that the police
department that's hand on this is the

703
00:57:24.400 --> 00:57:28.880
Jerome Police Department, correct, So
if people have tips, they can contact

704
00:57:28.920 --> 00:57:34.079
them, correct, Okay, because
let make sure I'll leave that information all

705
00:57:34.199 --> 00:57:38.199
right. And the final question I'd
have for you is for anyone that's out

706
00:57:38.199 --> 00:57:44.360
there listening, if they know anything
about what happened to your sister, what

707
00:57:44.400 --> 00:57:52.559
would you say to that person or
persons? Just contact either me or police

708
00:57:52.599 --> 00:57:57.760
department, and like you said,
we don't have to know who they are,

709
00:57:58.000 --> 00:58:02.599
or we don't have to tell the
police department who they are. All

710
00:58:02.639 --> 00:58:08.280
I want is to give her peace. Wherever my sister may be, just

711
00:58:09.239 --> 00:58:13.800
find her. I don't care who
did it at this point, I just

712
00:58:13.880 --> 00:58:17.760
want to find her, give her
a pauper burreal is she is not alive

713
00:58:17.800 --> 00:58:23.639
anymore, Just finally to give her
life some peace and find her. I

714
00:58:23.719 --> 00:58:29.480
don't know. I just want to
know where she's at. And that concludes

715
00:58:29.559 --> 00:58:35.119
the story of Liliam Gomez. She's
been missing for nearly three years and is

716
00:58:35.159 --> 00:58:39.159
presumed dead. Her family and friends
have continued to try to find out what

717
00:58:39.320 --> 00:58:44.480
happened to this young woman. The
family is hoping that law enforcement can get

718
00:58:44.480 --> 00:58:47.880
the truth out of the two brothers
who allegedly have knowledge about what happened to

719
00:58:47.960 --> 00:58:53.320
Liliam. She's described as being five
foot two and weighing around one hundred and

720
00:58:53.320 --> 00:58:58.800
twenty pounds. She has black hair
and brown eyes. Do you know what

721
00:58:58.920 --> 00:59:04.639
happened to Gomez? If you have
any information about this case, please contact

722
00:59:04.800 --> 00:59:09.559
the Jerome County Sheriff's Apartment at two
zero eight three two four eight eight four

723
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five. I'll be sure to include
this information in the case story news and

724
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725
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