Episode 165: Lilliam Gomez

0:13 Hello, Welcome to the Catchmight Killer Podcast. Thank you for listening. My name is Mark. Since twenty fifteen, I've written a weekly newspaper column about true crimes and unsolved homicides for the Claremont Sun newspaper in Ohio. Lilian Gomez was a twenty one year old woman from Guatemala who had settled in Jerome, Idaho with her family. She was a young woman who had done well in school and had plans for a bright future. Unfortunately, her life would take a downward spiral after learning that she was adopted. Her parents didn't tell her until later in life. Combined with her adoptive parents getting divorced and her mother returning to Guatemala without her, Lilian would turn to drugs. She would go missing in March twenty twenty. Her younger sister, Juliana, has been trying to find out what happened to Lilium. Perhaps you can help her get the answers she seeks. Lilian Gomez was born in Guatemala on December twenty fourth, ninety eight. She would later learn that she was adopted in harbor anger towards her parents for not disclosing this to her when she was younger. She would

1:45 eventually seek out her biological parents. Her adoptive parents have relocated from Guatemala and settled in Jerome, Idaho. Jerome is a county seat of Jerome County, Idaho. According to the idaho dot Com website, Jerome has a population of just over twenty four thousand people. Jerome is known for dairy farming. But Lilian's problems began after her parents divorced. Her mother would return to Guatemala while Lilian remained in Jerome with her father and younger brother and younger sister. According to her sister Julianna, Lilian turned to drugs to cope with her problems.

2:30 Lilian was living with a relative in Jerome and worked for a local potato plant. She would then move out of her relative's house and move into the home of a co worker. She would become close friends with a relative of Julianna's husband, who worked with Lilian at the potato plant. Lilian was known to love posting the social media and she always kept in contact with her family, but everything would come to a head in March of twenty twenty, when William would vanish. Her social media posts would go silent. And she would stop all contact with her friends and family. Juliana knew that this was not like her sister. There was no way that she would just walk away from her life and her family and friends. She contacted the Jerome Police Apartment and reported her sister missing. Unfortunately, she felt like law enforcement didn't take her case seriously. She would begin her own search for her missing sister. What she learned was disturbing. She found out that Liliam had moved out of her roommate's home and left no information about her whereabouts. She would eventually also find her sister's car and possessions. Someone had busted out all the windows and Liliam's car, but Liliam was nowhere to be found. Juliana would also find out that her sister had a stalker who was obsessed with her. He was in the country illegally and constantly asked Liliam to be his girlfriend. She wasn't interested,

4:02 and allegedly he had said if she wasn't going to be with him, she wasn't going to be with anyone else, and it's believed that this rejection may have led to what would eventually happen to her. An anonymous woman would reach out to Juliana and tell her what she believed happened to Lilian. According to this informant, Liliam Stalker and his brother had murdered and dismembered Lilian and buried her body parts throughout Jerome, Juliana has kept in touch with the detective handling her sister's case. She has shared all of her tips and provided the detective with names and other vital information. According to Juliana, both men are currently incarcerated and will most likely be deported after serving their sentences. Julianna has said that she has a small glimmer of hope that her older sister is still alive, but she also said that she's a realist and believes the story about her sister being killed and dismembered and now on with the story of Lilian Gomez as told by her younger sister, Julianna Gomez. I guess my sister was always like the perfect daughter in our family. She was a straight a student, always in school, always receiving awards for her talent that was like drawing and

5:36 coloring, and she was always like the goody two shots I guess in the family, up and tell about when my parents started to get a divorced. My dad has always been like an alcoholic and stuff like that, and I think my mom had enough of it, and my mom wanted to separate from my dad. And at that time, I was struggling with drug addiction and some drug problems and problems with the law, and I would bring like a law of drugs to the house. But at that time, none of my friends would pay attention to us. And my mom eventually left when I was thirteen, and I would say she was about fifteen sixteen, and I think her life took a turn then she started missing school, not paying attention, but grades started to become low. And my mom had left to Guatemala where she is currently at right now, and she gave my sister a call and told her that she was adopted. Now, up until then, we always thought we were sisters, and we always had a close relationship like sisters.

7:00 We never saw a difference between each other or the way her parents treated us. And my mom told her she was adopted. She was born in one of Malla. She was the only one born out of the state, and so she decided to look for her parents and she was mad at our parents were lying to her, and so just a divorce and and her finding out that she was adopted, I guess kind of bottled all up on her. In she started using drugs and falling into addiction. Prior to that, she never had any problems with the law. Like I said, she was always the good daughter in the family. And she started to struggle. And at that time, I was in Jube sturbing time, and I got tent to think, and I was like, somebody has to look over my sister and my brother, and so I decided to change at that moment, and I was like, I have to fix up my act, and I needed to take care of him because my dad has been going to because he was just focused on getting drunk. I don't think there was one day that he would not drink. And so when I got out, unfortunately, I was a little too late for my sister. She was hooked on messimphetamine and so we would never see her. She started to not go to school, not show

8:31 up at the house, and only show up when she needed stead. Now your parents are they both currently in Guatemala. Yes, my dad eventually got deported. So how did your family end up settling in Jerome, Idaho. Tell me about that. We always lived in Jerome ever since we were young. I think we moved a couple of times. So most of her life we've always lived in Jerome. So I'm guessing what my parents came from Guatemala. They just lived in Jerome. That's just a place we've groom her whole life. So are you and your siblings American citizens? No? No, no, we are the Only one that was born in Guatemala was Liliam.

9:18 There's six of us, including Lilliam and I, and so five of us were born in twin Fall died at home and Liliam was born in Guatemala. Did she become a citizen. She was in the process of becoming a citizen when she started to get in trouble with the law. She landed in immigration pens and she was up in Tacoma, Washington, in the immigration jail where she caught an infection that sent her to the hospital and she was in multiple surgeries and died during the surgery. But then they gave recipier. I don't know how they went, but she was battling with the surgeries and then mcgrad Gails I guess in a way, you didn't want us to sue them for the infection that she caught in the gael And they told her that she was going to be released under house arrest and that they were going to be in the process of giving her her citizenship and fixing her papers. So we were in the process of doing that. So was she excited about that? I mean that had to be something to be proud of. I mean, to become an American citizen is something pretty special. Yeah, she was. I know, she stayed clean for like a year, and I think as long as she didn't have social media. My sister was a big social media person.

10:37 There was not a time that she could not be on her Facebook or anything like that. And so I think that was the biggest problem with her, is staying away from her friends. That used as well because she was in recovery at it was housing into a fall. She was there through her recovery for a couple of months and they started to give her a tablet and more liberty to do stuff. And when she got the tablet, we started noticing her fall back into drugs. So she had a lot of bad influences in her life. Is that what you're saying. Yeah, she did, and they would show up. We had talked to the place where she was staying at and we told her nobody is allowed to visit her, only us, her family and my uncle. And I'm not sure how her friends would pick her up, because then we received a call like, oh, she's not here anymore, and it was because of the tablet that was given to her. She might have gone in contact with whoever and she would fall back into her addiction again. So tell me about your relationship with your sister.

11:52 Are you the oldest sister? No, she was the oldest. I'm the second oldest. Okay, so she was the oldest. So tell me about your relationship with her. Were you both really close? Did you confide in each other about everything? We were at one point close. When I was using we started to distance to each other and she was a lot closer to one of my cousins. But we'd have her sister fights, but we would always seem to find each other in the end to talk about stuff and bond as a sister. We were close, but some days we got into fights or I would be jealous of her and be like, well, everybody seems like you're the good one, and I'm always getting criticized for everything I'm doing, and little do they know that You're starting to do it too. And I would just kind of pick fights with her, but she would always come back. She was like a second mom to all of us. It sounds to me as if she was a really kind and loving person who really loved her family. But unfortunately, the darker side of life has those demons that get a hold of us, and sometimes they can be hard to get away from. It could come in the form of drugs or alcohol, but these type of vices just destroy the lives of so many good people. As you probably know now, when you and your siblings we're all living here in Idaho,

13:26 who was looking out for you? I know you said that your mother eventually moved back to Guatemala, and then your father eventually ended up going back to Guatemala. So were you all here alone? Who took care of you during this time? So we grew up with our parents. Like I said, my mom left. My mom took half of my siblings, so my sister and my brother's whore twins, She took them to Guatemala. And when did your mother return to Guatemala left about nine years ago. I was thirteen when she left, and I'm twent out to be twenty two. And how did you and your siblings feel about your mom's decision to return to Guatemala.

14:13 Were you all happy staying here or did you want to go back with her? I wanted to go with her, but she told me I was going to stay with my dad. She didn't want to take my older sister, Liliam because of her immigration status she didn't have papers. And then my brother, who I have legal guardianship of now, he didn't want to go with my mom. So US three stayed behind with my dad and she left with my other three siblings. Now, how did that work out for the family? Were you upset about that? I mean you just lost your siblings and your mom or were you okay with it? I was pretty upset. I think that's when I started to rebel and do everything that I did. I actually had gotten into my very first fight in school because I thought getting charges and getting a court date would not make my mom leave like she would have to stay with me because I have to go to court type being. So I did that and it didn't work out that way, No, Unfortunately I didn't. My dad attended my courts and my mom still up. That's a pretty dramatic change in your family structure, and I think I can understand why you and your sister or even your brother might have had issues and possibly gotten

15:43 into drugs or bad behavior, because big changes like that can affect people and sometimes lead to drug or alcohol abuse. These dramatic changes happening all at once, and then on top of that, you said your father being an alcoholic and not necessarily looking out for the family as he should have. Combine that with your mother leaving, it could not have been a good thing for the family. Definitely wasn't Now that I'm going back and like realizing everything we went through, it was definitely traumatic and sadly there was no one there to look after us. We still currently have two uncles that live in the area close, but none of them cared for us much to get us out of what we were or going to seek us help. I guess something my dad could have done, but him being an alcoholic, didn't realize that we were dealing with the same pain he was. Yeah, and then he eventually went back, of course, as you said, Yeah, so he eventually got deported, and that's how I ended up with a goal guardianship with my brother because he had found himself a girlfriend, took my brother and I out of the house and decided to move in his new girlfriend her kids to the house.

17:10 And I had been dating my husband for a year at the time, and I called my uncle and I was like, can you take care of my brother? I need to find a pose to sleep and like a house to get my brother because we were basically picked out of the house. And so my husband he's like, let me talk to my parents and people we can do and I told him to me and my brother, it's not just me and my in laws took guardianship. My dad gave up guardianship of us to my in laws. And then once I turned inteen and I ended up with my brother as well. And at this time, it's when Liliam was out of the house and been only coming to the house a couple of times when she needed to change or when she needed to shower stuff like that, where he was mainly out of the house. Prior to March twenty twenty, Liliam had always kept in touch with her family and she always loved to post on her Facebook pages. But once Liliam stopped posting on social media and stopped texting her family, Juliana knew that something had happened to her beloved sister. I'll share her thoughts on her sister's disappearance after a brief break. Now, when was the last time you saw Liliam? I want to say a couple of

18:41 weeks before my birthday, March first of two thousand and twenty. I believe, okay, because when I was looking at nemess and other pages, I saw that the last time anyone had seen her was March sixth, twenty twenty. Does that sound correct? I know sometimes the sites put out bad information, so I just wanted to confirm that March sixth, So you saw her shortly before she disappeared. What did you talk about the last time he talked to her? I don't really remember. My sister was working with my husband's aunt at a potato place in Twin Falls, and she would come over and we would spend the day together at my in lost house, and she would talk to my husband's aunt because they got really super close when they started working with each other, and we just talked about I had fun to go to Utah for my birthday, and I think we talked about her coming, and she was living with one of my uncles at the time, and she's like, oh, you might need task for permission to see if I could go.

19:57 So I think that was a ask conversation about how she was going to come or my birthday to celebrate my birthday, and of course she never made it. Now, now, when she talked to you, did she sense that there was anything wrong? Did she seem worried or concerned about anything. Was anybody bothering her? Did she tell you anything anything that she was in danger? She never really told me she was endangered. I know she tried to hide the fact that she was using again because I would talk to her about it. I was like, Liliam, I'm not stupid. I been through there. I know how how people look when they fall back into using drugs and stuff. I was there. I did need you to tell me.

20:44 But she was always trying to hide up from us, especially with my brother, because my brother didn't talk to her or didn't want nothing to do with her because of the way that she was using. So she was always trying to hide it. I know a couple of times she talked to me about her talking to her real mom and her real dad, and she mentioned the guy that she didn't know. She would always talk about how this guy would show up wherever she was at and text her and be like, hey, I'm outside or hey come outside, I know you're in here, or something like that. I didn't take it as something serious. I'm like, Liliam, you're just probably paranoid or something like that, because she was really really paranoid when she was using Sou's like, Liliam, you just need to stop overthinking that you're just being paranoid, and she's like, no, he always followed me, and I don't know who he is. I don't text them. I've been at houses where he's at because he's a current user as well. But I never talked to him for him to be following me or anything like that. But I always thought it was her being too paranoid to notice that nobody was following her or no, but he was actually like bully after her. The way she would describe it, how did you get her number? Then it would be through Facebook. She put her phone number on Facebook. No no, no, through Messenger, oh, okay, messenger got it. So after she disappeared, did you think to yourself that there

22:18 could have been something to her fears about a stalker? Perhaps there was really somebody stalking her. I know she wasn't sure at the time, but in your mind, did you start to think, Okay, there could have really been something to this. I did. I started to blame myself actually, because that she was trying to tell me and ask for help, and I never I never saw it because I was too over my head with her and her addiction that I never wanted to believe anything she would say. Did she ever call the police or following type of police report? She didn't file it before because she was using, so she was scared. I'm guessing of her being about using and how they were like every time he would show up, they would be at like a house where they were using and smoking. So she never told me she filed anything. Now, what about your husband's aunt.

23:19 They did work together at this potato plant, correct, Yes, I mean if you said they had gotten close. Did she know anything about this? Did she ever see this guy or anything? She never saw this guy. She noticed Lilium going the law to a truck on her break. She would always tell me, She's like, oh, do you know why your sisters or who this guy is or why your sisters talking to this guy? Because she would mention to me that there was this old guy that would bring her food and stuff to her job and that she would always go out there and during her lunch and kinda like and the whole lunch I were there, and my husband's that would be like, hey, you need to eat they in here, or what are you doing with that guy? How do you know that guy? And my sister would get mad at at my husband's dad and she would just tell her I know what I'm doing, don't worry about what I'm doing. And my husband's that would be like, what do you mean if you don't tell me who that is, I'm going to tell your sister, and she would get mad my husband's that for doing that. But I do remember quite a bit of times that my husband' dad would come and be like, hey, I always see your sister with this guy and there's people around the job. I'd say, that guy is not like a good guy. And I don't know if she wants to tell you if you want to ask her, And at one point I did ask her and she got mad about it. She's like, I don't know why she's going to you

24:49 and telling you stuff when it's none of your visitors. Yeah. Now, this guy that she was having lunch with, this wasn't the same guy that was stalking her, right, you said this was an older man. No, this wasn't the same guy. Okay. Did you ever find out who this guy was? This older guy? Yeah? So she had a friend that was quite older that had the same white trucks like my husband's that would describe and I didn't put two and two together until she disappeared. He would be around all the time and he was older, and rumor had it that he would give her drugs for free so that she could do whatever with him.

25:33 But I never knew if it was the truth or not. Okay, So how did she find out that Lilliam was missing? Tell me about that. So I had woken up on my birthday with her with the message on messenger that she sent me seven thirty four am. She just said happy birthday, sister, and I texted her back at three or four that afternoon the second day on March second, just telling her thank you, sister, and that same day, March second, at three thirty five, she said, I love you a law I'm sorry I didn't get to go to your house, and then I texted her. I didn't reply till days after, and I only texted her her back because my aunt had called me on March this.

26:26 I believe she had called me. She said, hey, have you heard anything about your sister? Like I, she's not saying that the house anymore. She had recently moved out. We've would always call her and keep in touch, and she would always answer her calls, and your uncle would always ask how she's doing it. But she's like, it's been a couple of days since she hasn't picked up any of her calls. And I was like, I honestly haven't tucked her her back. I was like, I men spurred her last on March second, but I never on the back to what she told me. And she's like, well, try and call her and see if she picks your call up, because she's nine for uber balls and she's probably just mad at So I started calling her and I texted her and she didn't respond, and then about the second day I texted her again and no, response, and then I finally texted her messenger and I was like, hey, how how have you been, sister? Like Mom's been NonStop asking for you all that. We hope you're doing well and remember we love you. And that was March tenth, and then March twelve, I texted her again, Hey, I'm getting worried. I haven't heard from you in a while. I hope you're good, sister, and I love you a lot. Ever, forget that and please message me and let me know you're okay. And no response, And then I started to call my uncle

27:56 and I was like, hey, like, did do you ever get a call back? Or has she tested you? And I hit up a couple of her friends. I messaged them and I was like, have you guys heard anything about Lilian? And nobody had heard anything. It was like nobody saw her, nobody knew where she was at, or nobody wanted to say anything. And so I filed the report. And what police department did you file with? Did your own police department? Okay, so you file the missing person's report with them? And what did they tell you when you first made your report? It first asked me for her age and I let them know that she was twenty one, and they're like, well, are you sure she didn't run away with her boyfriend or she just left the state to do her life or anything like that. I'm more than positive she did not leave with anybody. I was like, this is weird for her not to be on social media. I repeated that multiple times. It's super weird that she's not answering me or any of us or connected on her Facebook at all.

29:06 And I was like, she's like missing, and they're like, WHOA, we can go ahead and file it, but we need seventy two hours until they can actually like air it out and stuff like that, or like post it and start actually looking for her. That's a long time. Three days. Yeah, So I was like, I guess I could file it. I'm more than positive that she did not leave with anybody. And so later that day police came to our house. I filed a report. He started asking questions as far as friends, contact, car information, cell phone number, and I gave that information to them. And in your opinion, did they take the report seriously? Honestly, when I filed that report, I felt like I was taken as a joke just because of my age.

29:55 And nobody else basically backing me up as far as a parent or an adult. Even my mother in law was like, are they even taking me serious? Because it doesn't seem like they are. There was no search done or there was no pinking of phones or anything like that. I had to go with one of my cousins and she's like, hey, like we could make up flyers, and I was like, okay, we'll do flyers. We did flyers, went to Jerome and most of them everywhere, and I don't think they ever did anything until the day that we went to the Maverick and Jerome and the girl's like, hey, sister, your sister right And I was like, yeah, like we think she's missing. Do you recognize her?

30:37 And she's like yeah. And I was putting a flyer somewhere and my cousin called me and she's like, hey, I think they might have seen your sister recently. And so I go to Maverick and they told me that did your sister have any brothers? I was like, we only have one, but he's usually with me, and she's like, well, a couple of days ago she came in with two guys to this Maverick and so that's what I called. Now you mentioned Maverick. What's Maverick. Maverick is a gas station in Jerome. Okay, Yeah, it's a gas station in Jerome. And so I called the Jerome Police Department and I told them, hey, like, I am posting flowers of my sister and we came across this gas station and they say that they just recently saw my sister's shop for some stuff with two guys, and they might have video footage, but they are not allowed to show it to us. They're only allowed to show it if it's an open investigation. And so we waited there with my cousin, and I didn't get to see the video. Only the police department went back there with the employee and they looked through videos on those like, well, we don't have anything clear that actually shows us the face of your sister, but there is the footage of a girl that comes in with two guys, so they see that. They just don't know if it was your sister. Correct.

32:04 Did they ask you to confirm whether it was your sister or not? They didn't. They told me I couldn't review the video until they had a clear image, So I guess they never got a clear image, and then yeah, they never did. They saw the car she went in. And then once the police department left, we still stayed behind and the employees like, is this you're a private investigator, And I was like, I just recently filed a missing person with this police department. And I was like, I'm not sure how it goes. I've never had this happen. She's like, that was a bit strange that they didn't ask you to see if that was your sister, like if you recognized her, right, And I was like, it really was, but I don't know how it goes. Maybe it's part of their investigation. Even though employee telling me that was a ratified for me, I was like, okay, Like are they actually taking me serious? I always like to ask that because a lot of times the people I speak to will tell me we reported our loved one missing. But I don't think they took it very seriously. I think maybe they try saying, oh, well, he or she probably just ran off, or they're off just doing something. They're out partying, but don't be worried about it, they'll come back. They take that approach instead of saying, hey, this could be serious. Maybe we need to get out and start looking for this person. From what I understand, the story about them just running off seems

33:35 to be the most common with law enforcement. In short, unless it's a small child. In many cases, the report's not taken seriously. No, it's not. It's easier just to say that the victim wandered off on their own. So when your sister disappeared, did you even consider that she ran away? Or were you probably more sure that something happened to her, because there's no way she would just leave without talking to her family. What were your thoughts when she disappeared? My first thoughts were, she's actually missing? Is this actually real? Or am I overthinking it? Maybe she left with somebody and she didn't want to like let us know. But then again, like I said, my sister was super addicted to social media, Like there was not one day she could not go on social media. Even if she had to spend days outside of a library to get Wi Fi to get on her social media, she would. It was her theme. And so the moment I started to realize that this is actually what happening she's missing is when I never saw her connect to her social media or never respond back to any of her messages. Now, she does have her Facebook page still up, doesn't she? Because I think I looked at it. Yeah, she has multiple Facebook pages. What's the day of her last posting over all of her pages? Which? What's the final date did she posted something? So the last time she posted something March fifth, twenty twenty. Okay, So you're

35:12 telling me that there's no way she'd go to this along without posting something. Correct. Unfortunately, that's probably not a very good sign that she's still alive. Yeah. Yeah, And after prepared to myself for the worst, I mean, I still have hope she might be alive, but I know reality, people just don't go missing for this long and turn out alive, especially not at her age, right, or you know, not post on social media or just not contact the family. Those are just definitely red flags that something happened to her. Now, where did she live before she disappeared? Did she live with your husband's aunt and then she moved out? No, she had got our ampouse in Dural, Okay. And when did she move out? I think she had moved out. I want to save February or the beginning to February of twenty twenty. She disappeared in twenty twenty. March sixth, twenty twenty. Last messages that I have with her and when I filed a report was of March of twenty twenty. Okay. And then you said she moved out of your aunt's house in February of twenty twenty. Yeah, so like a month or so prior to my birthday. Okay. Where was she going to move to? She was going to move to her co worker's house. It was near my uncle's house on the outskirts of Jerome.

36:43 It was probably a couple of miles from my uncle's house. And she made it there. I assume she did. I know that my uncle had gone to visit her and see how she doing a couple of times. And how was she when he visited her. How is she doing? Wasn't doing too good? My uncle told, hey, I think your sister's using again because of the way she looked to him. I never actually visited or at that house. We kind of always just come to my house. Do you know anything about this roommate? How many roommates did she have? I I am not sure. I want to say one. Was it a guy? Yeah, it was a guy. Did you know anything about this guy? Did he have a criminal record? Was you a drug user? I didn't know much about him. I knew that he worked at the dairy that she was working at, but I didn't know if he was a drug user, if he wasn't, or who he was exactly. She didn't like to tell me that. I guess if he was using, she wasn't going to tell me he was. Now have you spoken to this guy since she disappeared? I have not spoken to him. My uncle's went to his house and until my guests and like, has she been here or where all her stuff and stuff like that? And all that guy told my uncle was that she had gone

38:15 to live somewhere else a couple of days ago or a couple of weeks ago. And she didn't tell anybody correct. Correct? That sounds suspicious to me. Who just does that? And all of her stuff was gone, Yes, all of her stuff was gone, including Kurk Carr has a carbon recovered. We did. We found her car as a trailer in Jerome, but it wasn't that guy's house, and all her clothes and stuff were there too, was in the trailer or in her car and the trailer whose trailer was this? I had no idea whose trailer was this. I found out because this girl had messaged me on messenger and like, hey, like I saw that you posted that your sister's missing. She's like, I know this is weird, but I'm really good at friends with your sister. And she's like, I want to try and help you find your sister. And I was like, okay, I protect her and stuff like that. Her or she hasn't seen any of my messages or anything like that, and she's like, well, everybody's where she's got. But she's like, I might have an idea of where her dust might be. And so that was that, and then I receive a call from her a day. One day, I receive a call from her. She's she's like, hey, video call me when as you can, and I have video callar She's like her calls here, but it's not in good condition, and she's like, can you answer my video call? And I answered. She's like, it looks like somebody tried

39:45 to break in her car and her car had broken windows, Like if they were trying to break in her car, if she had locked her car and somebody was trying to really get in her car. The ignition was off, the front windows were broken, the side windows and the driver windows were all broken on the stoor, like they had tried to open it with some kind of metal bar or something. Did the police impound that car? Yes, they still currently have that car. That's good because they can keep it in search for evidence. But you probably don't know if they've found anything, because I don't doubt if they would tell you. I know that they found something. I just can't say because it kind of ruins their investigation. He only told me, Yeah, he told me they found something, but that I wasn't allowed to say. Okay, that makes sense. So how often do you follow up with police on this? Right now? Detective Olson from Jural is on her taste and I keep in touch with him. Towards the beginning of her disappearance. I would send him screenshot of people telling me stuff.

40:52 Obviously, people all have a story of what might have happened, and to me, there was multiple things that could have happened to her. So I would always reach out those messages that I would receive from people, and I would send them to him, and I would do my own search and I would search up the people that they named and stamp pictures and stuff like that. Everything that was coming to me I was sending to him, and he would be like, if these people really want to help, they need to be willing to sign a statement and go in. But the people that would tell me were users as well, and they would always tell like, Hey, I don't want to be appointed as a snitch and I don't want to go in or be questioned. I don't They would want to remain anonymous, And at that time I was desperate to know everything, and I was like, Okay, I won't say anything or who you are if you tell me, just tell me what's going on. I won't mention you. I won't tell him who you are or anything like that. All I care about is finding my sister. After Lilium vanished, Anna told me that she began receiving tips about her sister. One of the most disturbing tips is that she was murdered by two brothers who were in the country illegally. Allegedly, the men killed Liliam, dismembered her, and have spread her body parts throughout Jerome.

42:15 Liliam has shared this information with law enforcement and believes it to be credible. She said that two brothers are currently incarcerated, allegedly one of the brothers was Liliam stalker. Julianna is hopeful that law enforcement will eventually get answers from the brothers before they are eventually deported. Has anybody given you any information that you feel is probably the truth? One of the stories kind of matched. So this person had told me that the guy that would follow her was obsessed with her and he wanted Lilliam to be his girlfriend, and Liliam didn't want to, and that he had made a comment one day saying if Lilian wasn't going to be for him, Lilian wasn't going to be for anybody. And they had this person told me that he took her and shot her in the head and buried her for no one to find her. And you'd think that's credible.

43:39 At the time, I didn't. I was like, you know what, there's multiple stories of Lilian being dead, and yes, there is a possibility of Lilian being dead, but there was always a different story. Oh, they beat her up and they chopped her up, and they buried her in different places, or they shot her in the head and they threw her an acid, or they buried her under cows at a dairy and there was just multiple stories of how Liliam was dead. And so I was like, Okay, I don't know who to believe. Everybody's telling me something different. Now, the guy talking about the stalker guy I had read on read it that he was an undocumented person, so he may have been in the country illegally. Do you know anything about that? Yeah, so he was.

44:30 He had came in to the US illegally to save his life basically. So what I've investigated is that he was a part of a cartel in Mexico and he was escaping from the gartel because he did something and they were looking for him in Mexico to kill him. They're still waiting for him, and so he had came here. He recently was arrested for shooting a guy in Jerome and he's still serving his years in jail right now. And this happened after your sister disappeared. Correct, Correct? And I told the investigator, I was like, hey, can we question how am or is there a way that we can see stuff? And he said, well, he's not currently like in Jerome or in Therereo or somewhere that we can be and he hasn't said anything or confessed to anything, and I was like, Okay, well, I guess it's just a waiting game because he's eventually get deported, and so it's just like a waiting game for me. And his brother recently got into jail. He was in jail multiple times, and a rumor has it that his brother actually helped him get rid of Lillium. You know, after you mentioned the two brothers allegedly being seen with your sister, this takes me back to what you were telling me earlier about the sighting of your sister with

46:06 two men at that Maverick gas station. That makes me really wonder is it possible that that was your sister with those two men. I think it's a real possibility. Yeah. Yeah, I didn't really pay much attention to the story of this guy shooting my sister. You know what, People just want to be a part of the story, and one of them has to be the truth. I'm sure Jerome's not a very big area, is it. No, it's really not. And I was at a party with my uncle and this guy said that he was drinking with this guy that isn't Joe, that he was drinking with him and a couple of us friends the stalker or the brother the stalker, and he was drinking with him and his friends and the brother, so they were all there, and that they were telling the story about how he had taken the girl he was obsessed with out. He says that they dragged her out with this girl and they took her to a field and they were smoking or whatever, and that my sister became too paranoid and she started to saying stuff and just being really paranoid, and that he told her to get in the car, and she wasn't listening, and so that he started to hit her. And the other guy that they were with, or the girl or whatever, like the people that they were with, they're like, hey, don't don't hit her, don't do that to her, just leave her, let her sober up. The guy forced her into

47:38 the car and he's like, you need to, like stop with your crap. If you don't know how to smoke, then just don't smoke at all. And he's like, I wasn't really paying attention to the story, but I heard them say a couple of things, and then that he had hit her and she got out of the car, she didn't want to get back in the car, and so he ran her over. And then the other people started to freak out and that he just got her in the car and left and after that they never saw that girl again. So he's like, I'm not sure if this is your sister or not. This is just the story that they were telling that. They're just like wondering what had happened.

48:22 And he's like, I'm not sure if it's true or not. And so then this is the second time I'm hearing the same story. Maybe there's a possibility this is what happened to her. And there was more people coming up as time went by, saying, you know, we need to look into these brothers. What sounds like they know something. Yeah, they just don't say exactly anything. It's really frustrating. And this is the story that I've heard most of the times that I've mentioned. I received a call about six months ago and she's like, I know that you don't know me, and I don't want to say my name or anything, but I need to tell you something. And I was like, okay, I do do you tell me? You know, like I don't care who you are if you want to remain anonymous, I'm totally okay with it, and that is what we agree to. And she mentions the brothers again and she says, they killed your sister. You don't want to come up forward with it, and like the brother, not the one that was obsessed with the sister, but the brothers that help. He is currently in jail right now. He's like, you need to question him because he was a part of the murder of your sister. She's like, and I know that you've heard multiple stories, and I know that you're one drink of it's the truth or not. But she's like, I need you to believe me because I am sisters with the brother's wife. And I was like, so, what you're telling me is they

49:55 killed her, but you don't want to tell me the truth. She's like, I don't know much. She's like, I'm gonna give my sister a call and see what she wants to tell me. And his wife is in Mexico with his kids. She's like, she doesn't want to see who she is. She doesn't want to talk to the detective or anything like that until she's daring key protection because she's afraid of what they can do to her and her kids. And I was like, okay, well, I can see what I can do and see how we can help. But I was like, I don't want nobody to be endangered anymore, like having my sister disappeared.

50:35 It's already enough. Wait on me. And she said, well, she kept giving me calls and she would tell me. He was drunk one night and told his wife that his brother had hit your sister in this party that they were at, and he had hit her and knocked her out, and he was afraid that she was not alivee anymore, and so he decided to shoot her, dismember her, and bury her in different areas. And they're like his brother helped him bury her, and she's like, he didn't want to talk to me anymore. But he mentioned that he couldn't deal with having that to himself, like he couldn't deal with like what they did to her, and that he wanted to come out with the truth, but he didn't want to bring his brother under And so I was like, okay, I told the detective, and the detective like, I need this to be a written statement because if this is the truth and we find your sister.

51:42 We need to get him with something. And so I gave the detective phone number to her and I was like, you know what, you can call him. He doesn't need to know your name. You can remain anonymous, you can private call him. And I just really need you to make the statement, because if this is really what happened to her, I need to have proof of what you're telling me. And so she did talk to the detective. They did make a statement. The detective called me later that she did call and they did make the statement, and they have a video recorded of the phone call and everything like that. Now, the only thing we're encountering is that nobody wants to say where she's at, or nobody knows where she's at. They just know she's dead, but they don't know where the body is. Yeah. Yeah, And so this is when my mother in law's like, hey, you need to start pressuring the detectives. You need to start telling him if we need to go down there with you so they can take you seriously, then we will. And so I started talking the detective. I was like, hey, I can do this, I can do that. They told me a couple of different spots and I was like I have a raisor. I was like, I'm going to go out there and check since us cat. I was getting really frustrated. I was like, I am so sorry. I'm not trying to be rude. I know that you have other things that you have to do, but I need to find my sister. I'm sure the family would like to give her a proper

53:13 burial. Yeah, And so basically he told me that he was going to go out there, and he had gone to multiple places with cadaver dogs of people coming in because like, I'm receiving constant calls and stuff about your sister and places. It's just that every time I can get a call, it's always a different place. And he's like, I'm out there with cadaver dogs. I'm out there on four wheelers searching, and he's like, the longer the time goes by, the hard dri is going to get to find And so they had me go in for DNA. But that's when I told him there's a possibility that my sister's adopted. I don't want to believe that she's adopted, but my mom is saying it. And I've talked to my mom and I told her I'm not joking anymore. This is something serious. She's missing. I need to know if she's adopted or not. And so they grabbed my DNA and I did a search for her family and I got her family's DNA in case she is adopted and this is actually her family, I have DNA to prove if we have a finder, we can match DNA's basically.

54:29 Now, do you have any type of social media presence for your sister? Is there a page on Facebook dedicated to this case? There is not. I've been thinking about making one. I just don't know where to start. I always recommend people to put up a Facebook page. I mean, there's a lot of people that do that, and they ask the tips and they ask people to share the page and just put up pictures of her and any updates. And the other thing you can do is put other cases on there too. That'll keep people come back to see the new content. Yeah. Yeah, and just ask people. If you know anything, just message me. I won't mention your name. I mean, if you know where she's buried, please tell me. Just give me the information. I can give it to the police, but I won't give them your name. I'll keep it private. Yeah, that's all. I've been talking to my husband about making the Facebook page because just recently, I'm not sure if you've heard about another case. This person his name's Dylan Welln he went missing. Yes, I've heard of him. I actually reached out to his family. I wanted to do the story about him, but they never got back to me.

55:37 Yes, And I think that's where I'm scared, because his family had a huge reward to whoever knew, and I have a reward out there, but it's not as big as the one they had. And it's like if nobody came up with the truth knowing how much money was on the line, what are they going to do about my small reward. I've just like doubt it myself. Well, you know what, don't about yourself. Just put it out there. Just never know. You might have somebody out there that we'll see the information, see the photos of your sister and just want to help. Even if you have a small reward, then just go with it. Yeah, yeah, just do whatever you can do. Put it on TikTok, make videos, just anything. I mean, social media is free, it doesn't cost you anything. Just put it out there and see what happens. Oh yeah, and then you can put the links on your Facebook page so people can check it out. And then I would also recommend that you contact your local media and ask them to do a story. Like your sisters third anniversaries come up right March, so it'll be three years, so perhaps on the third year anniversary of her disappearance, but your local news station or your local news purs could write a story or interview you about your sister for the third year anniversary. I have contact, though I've gone multiple contact to the news, the local movement, they simply just tell me that because it's an open plase, they need to contact Jerome Police Department and see if

57:08 they're able to air out the story to where it is still an open investigation, and then I never hear back. The other thing you can do is you can probably reach out to other podcasters and see if they'll do the story. And now you said that the police department that's hand on this is the Jerome Police Department, correct, So if people have tips, they can contact them, correct, Okay, because let make sure I'll leave that information all right. And the final question I'd have for you is for anyone that's out there listening, if they know anything about what happened to your sister, what would you say to that person or persons? Just contact either me or police department, and like you said, we don't have to know who they are, or we don't have to tell the police department who they are. All I want is to give her peace. Wherever my sister may be, just find her. I don't care who did it at this point, I just want to find her, give her a pauper burreal is she is not alive anymore, Just finally to give her life some peace and find her. I don't know. I just want to know where she's at. And that concludes the story of Liliam Gomez. She's been missing for nearly three years and is presumed dead. Her family and friends have continued to try to find out what

58:39 happened to this young woman. The family is hoping that law enforcement can get the truth out of the two brothers who allegedly have knowledge about what happened to Liliam. She's described as being five foot two and weighing around one hundred and twenty pounds. She has black hair and brown eyes. Do you know what happened to Gomez? If you have any information about this case, please contact the Jerome County Sheriff's Apartment at two zero eight three two four eight eight four five. I'll be sure to include this information in the case story news and if you are a parent, law enforcement official, friend, or relative seek injustice were an unsolved common side case, please visit my website and complete the contact form. You can also contact with your Facebook. Thank you for listening.